Message from @Bogatyr Bogumir

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2019-06-09 19:04:28 UTC  

Modern monarchies?

2019-06-09 19:04:35 UTC  

Or monarchies is general?

2019-06-09 19:05:53 UTC  

just monarchies in general

2019-06-09 19:05:56 UTC  

I'm a Monarchist

2019-06-09 19:07:37 UTC  

Brb gotta order a guitar case

2019-06-09 19:07:56 UTC  

Penal slavery gang

2019-06-09 19:35:33 UTC  

i mean ethnostates are teh most stable states

2019-06-09 19:35:42 UTC  

hell even switzerland is basically 3-4 states

2019-06-09 19:36:08 UTC  

ethnostates are tbh the natural state, however in the past it was a natural consequence of the fact that its god damn hard to migrate

2019-06-09 19:36:21 UTC  

the issue of ethnostates only has arisen because of ease of migration in modernity

2019-06-09 19:36:47 UTC  

I was about to drop a bomb but the last message was cool

2019-06-09 19:37:13 UTC  

I don't have a personal problem with slavery. The issue is typically a conflation between chattel slavery, voluntary slavery, and penal slavery, and their various applications. Chattel slavery where the slave has no rights or say in ever having become a slave is pretty much universally immoral. I think voluntary slavery made sense back in the day. Whether it be by indentured servitude, being an in-home servant to a Lord, or what have you. Or military service nowadays. Penal slavery has pretty much always been a thing. Still happening now. People don't seem to mind it that much.

2019-06-09 19:37:56 UTC  

Also that military idea, i agree with that I however think 6 months could be enough however 2 years + continued education wouldnt be a bad way to go

2019-06-09 19:38:14 UTC  

for example incorporating the service to say your choice of study or apprenticeship

2019-06-09 19:38:22 UTC  

so its not wasted time and strenghtens the mind as well

2019-06-09 19:38:32 UTC  

Ahh, apprentice slavery was another things back in the days.

2019-06-09 19:38:44 UTC  

That's why it was, quite literally, *master* and apprentice.

2019-06-09 19:39:03 UTC  

You were your master's slave in the hopes of learning the job and becoming a tradesman yourself in the long-term payoff.

2019-06-09 20:30:03 UTC  

I mean depends, the apprentice wasnt exactly a slave however his qualifications were dependant on the masters will to pass him

2019-06-09 20:30:11 UTC  

as often that reflected on the master, if he was teaching at all

2019-06-09 20:30:38 UTC  

meanwhile he got fed, had citizens rights, etc. You could say they were perpetual students stuck in a system that prevented them from ever graduating regardless of skill

2019-06-10 00:27:55 UTC  

Maybe

2019-06-10 00:28:04 UTC  

But apprenticeships could work

2019-06-10 00:28:13 UTC  

But in the modern Capitalist system no

2019-06-10 00:28:21 UTC  

Because they would abuse the fuck out of it

2019-06-10 00:28:36 UTC  

And just say "sorry u didn't meet my qualifications"

2019-06-10 02:42:16 UTC  

@Deleted User I think that Monarchies can vary in success. A limited monarchy would be the best form, one where the monarch still has significant power but a constitution and a parliament of sorts exists.

2019-06-10 02:42:23 UTC  

ye

2019-06-10 02:43:04 UTC  

If your people are nationalists and patriots, it’d work better. But countries like that don’t really exist anymore

2019-06-10 02:43:58 UTC  

They fell after WW1 where nationalism and imperialism basically started the war, and people began to see that of everyone whips out their dicks and the measuring tapes, bad shit happens

2019-06-10 09:21:17 UTC  

I mean nationalism resisted the imperialism of other countries, WW2 again happened because of imperialism and nationalism again resisted. The issue it seems of those two wars is nationalism lost both times before the war got started

2019-06-10 09:21:27 UTC  

hell hitler had nationalist natsoc's telling him dont do it

2019-06-10 20:20:10 UTC  

@everyone Debate Topic

🔘 What is your opinion on tarrifs? How should we tarrifs goods and countries? Should certain goods be exempt to taxed at a higher rate?

2019-06-10 20:20:39 UTC  

^

2019-06-10 20:21:04 UTC  

Suck your mum

2019-06-10 20:24:23 UTC  

They're good

2019-06-10 20:24:31 UTC  

Protect items made in our country

2019-06-10 20:30:24 UTC  

establish ultimate economic aggression

2019-06-10 20:30:33 UTC  

tariff anything that is a threat

2019-06-10 20:30:40 UTC  

big bucks

2019-06-10 20:30:47 UTC  

besides the kek memes