Message from @Maksim

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2019-09-09 22:11:56 UTC  

Democracy was doomed from the start.

2019-09-09 22:12:10 UTC  

Nah democracy is collapsing because of overbearing corporate influence

2019-09-09 22:12:12 UTC  

I disagree

2019-09-09 22:12:14 UTC  

Democracy is Hard Work @Attika

2019-09-09 22:12:19 UTC  

Lols

2019-09-09 22:12:26 UTC  

That wasn’t a problem when people worked hard

2019-09-09 22:12:29 UTC  

Most people dont care nor want to be involved in politics

2019-09-09 22:12:38 UTC  

@Attika That's the problem

2019-09-09 22:12:49 UTC  

Success has made us soft

2019-09-09 22:12:49 UTC  

You’d be surprised how many people care.

2019-09-09 22:12:55 UTC  

I agree with that.

2019-09-09 22:13:08 UTC  

And there is *no* way to realistically reverse that

2019-09-09 22:13:12 UTC  

It’s why we have LGBTQ fanatics and homosexuality is okay.

2019-09-09 22:13:21 UTC  

@Attika In 1945

2019-09-09 22:13:24 UTC  

there were 12 democratic countries

2019-09-09 22:13:30 UTC  

i.e where people had the right to vote

2019-09-09 22:13:35 UTC  

And look how well they did

2019-09-09 22:13:42 UTC  

By the end of the 20th century

2019-09-09 22:13:45 UTC  

there were 86

2019-09-09 22:13:51 UTC  

That stopped increasing in 2000

2019-09-09 22:13:58 UTC  

Ever since 2000, it has been decreasing

2019-09-09 22:14:07 UTC  

In fact they were so successful that now their success is killing themselves.

2019-09-09 22:14:16 UTC  

And it has been proven that an autocratic government is more effective at nation-building than democracy

2019-09-09 22:14:22 UTC  

Look at south-east asia

2019-09-09 22:14:25 UTC  

Hong Kong

2019-09-09 22:14:27 UTC  

China?

2019-09-09 22:14:29 UTC  

Singapore

2019-09-09 22:14:40 UTC  

I’d rather die than live in a socialist state.

2019-09-09 22:14:46 UTC  

Hyper-Capitalist (that's not the point), but very Autocratic

2019-09-09 22:14:50 UTC  

Very authoritarian

2019-09-09 22:15:00 UTC  

Attika where do you live?

2019-09-09 22:15:26 UTC  

I hate authoritarian governments. Government needs to stay the fuck out of my life. Run the politics but stay out of my life and how I live.

2019-09-09 22:15:30 UTC  

US. Central US

2019-09-09 22:15:50 UTC  

Well there are socialist policies spearheaded by Republicans

2019-09-09 22:16:04 UTC  

Socialist policies, some of them. Can be okay.

2019-09-09 22:16:07 UTC  

@Attika You as an individual may think that, but thinking in terms of the general population - it is a proven fact people prefer *security and order* over *freedom*

2019-09-09 22:16:09 UTC  

I said Socialist state

2019-09-09 22:16:30 UTC  

Most US residents conflate those two

2019-09-09 22:16:32 UTC  

Anyone who would trade their Freedom for security deserve neither and will lose both.

2019-09-09 22:16:46 UTC  

My mistake

2019-09-09 22:16:50 UTC  

@Attika That quote is not gospel