Message from @Attika

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2019-09-09 22:15:00 UTC  

Attika where do you live?

2019-09-09 22:15:26 UTC  

I hate authoritarian governments. Government needs to stay the fuck out of my life. Run the politics but stay out of my life and how I live.

2019-09-09 22:15:30 UTC  

US. Central US

2019-09-09 22:15:50 UTC  

Well there are socialist policies spearheaded by Republicans

2019-09-09 22:16:04 UTC  

Socialist policies, some of them. Can be okay.

2019-09-09 22:16:07 UTC  

@Attika You as an individual may think that, but thinking in terms of the general population - it is a proven fact people prefer *security and order* over *freedom*

2019-09-09 22:16:09 UTC  

I said Socialist state

2019-09-09 22:16:30 UTC  

Most US residents conflate those two

2019-09-09 22:16:32 UTC  

Anyone who would trade their Freedom for security deserve neither and will lose both.

2019-09-09 22:16:46 UTC  

My mistake

2019-09-09 22:16:50 UTC  

@Attika That quote is not gospel

2019-09-09 22:16:57 UTC  

I treat it as such

2019-09-09 22:17:03 UTC  

It cannot be proven

2019-09-09 22:17:09 UTC  

It can be disproven even

2019-09-09 22:17:19 UTC  

Hong Kong and Singapore are great examples

2019-09-09 22:17:34 UTC  

Where less freedom has led to higher living standards

2019-09-09 22:17:34 UTC  

The moment the government tells me how many kids I can have, what beliefs to have, or how I make my money, they have gone too far.

2019-09-09 22:17:39 UTC  

I don’t care.

2019-09-09 22:17:45 UTC  

I disagree on that

2019-09-09 22:18:06 UTC  

The government *should* direct these aspects of everyday life for the average citizen, keep in mind i say average

2019-09-09 22:18:09 UTC  

I’d rather be dirt poor and freedom of speech than have a cozy life and no rights.

2019-09-09 22:18:13 UTC  

No.

2019-09-09 22:18:14 UTC  

The average person is not very intelligent

2019-09-09 22:18:17 UTC  

No.

2019-09-09 22:18:18 UTC  

No.

2019-09-09 22:18:19 UTC  

And no.

2019-09-09 22:18:24 UTC  

The intelligent, may have freedom, but the average

2019-09-09 22:18:35 UTC  

I am a guy who’s not super intelligent.

2019-09-09 22:18:46 UTC  

They must be controlled in order to maximize the strength and efficiency of the nation

2019-09-09 22:19:01 UTC  

I run a business, have a family, and I want a bunch of kids.

2019-09-09 22:19:17 UTC  

If the government interferes with any of these things... they have gone too far.

2019-09-09 22:19:40 UTC  

Do you know how many people in the US should die before I lose my right to freedom of speech and right to bear arms?

2019-09-09 22:19:43 UTC  

All of them.

2019-09-09 22:19:55 UTC  

@Attika We have a fundamental difference in our worldview concerning authority and power - one which i doubt can have a middle ground. We can however still be respectful of one another, so thanks.

2019-09-09 22:20:04 UTC  

Yes

2019-09-09 22:20:40 UTC  

Just don’t take my rights away and I won’t have to give you a severe case of lead poisoning. 😂😂😂 lols jk....sorta. 😂 thanks for the polite discussion.

2019-09-09 22:20:45 UTC  

I would say you are not correct, but not wrong. Neither am i correct nor wrong - a system of government cannot work everywhere

2019-09-09 22:20:57 UTC  

Democracy cannot work everywhere, Autocracy cannot work everywhere

2019-09-09 22:21:05 UTC  

I just want the government to stay out of my life.

2019-09-09 22:21:23 UTC  

I deal with them on a regular basis. I know a family who lost their kids to the government for no reason.

2019-09-09 22:21:32 UTC  

The government is as bad as any mega Corp.