Message from @Attika

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2019-09-17 17:57:54 UTC  

I used to be Christian

2019-09-17 17:58:29 UTC  

But moved away from it and just fell into messianic before finally becoming full religious Jew.

2019-09-17 17:58:49 UTC  

And no, my family have been money makers long before we came Jewish.

2019-09-17 18:36:54 UTC  

Why be follow judaism tho?

2019-09-17 18:38:25 UTC  

he needs divine consent for his usury

2019-09-17 18:39:26 UTC  

@Deleted User are you British?

2019-09-17 19:47:06 UTC  

@The Desert Fox V I believe in Yahowah. That’s why.

2019-09-17 19:49:20 UTC  

@Attika Yahweh is God

2019-09-17 19:49:36 UTC  

Yahowah is the name of God.

2019-09-17 19:49:58 UTC  

Or just God

2019-09-17 19:50:10 UTC  

God is so generic. It could mean really any god.

2019-09-17 19:50:29 UTC  

>is Christian
>Converts to a religion which Jesus repeatedly disavowed

2019-09-17 19:50:52 UTC  

Yes?

2019-09-17 19:50:59 UTC  

I don’t follow Jesus.

2019-09-17 19:51:17 UTC  

And why not?

2019-09-17 19:51:51 UTC  

He says things that are antithetical to Torah.

2019-09-17 19:51:59 UTC  

How

2019-09-17 19:53:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587028275918929925/623607364020469771/image0.png

2019-09-17 19:53:04 UTC  

Part of Torah is you must respect you’re parents.

2019-09-17 19:53:39 UTC  

And Torah itself is about Family and Community. That blatantly hurts the family.

2019-09-17 19:53:52 UTC  

And nowhere in Torah does it say that.

2019-09-17 19:54:01 UTC  

You're taking it way out of context

2019-09-17 19:54:14 UTC  

All in all though, the worst offender is Paul. I personally believe Jesus was a freedom fighter, just not God himself.

2019-09-17 19:54:20 UTC  

Okay.

2019-09-17 19:54:25 UTC  

What’s the context?

2019-09-17 19:55:44 UTC  

I’m actually genuinely curious to see what you have to say...it’s something that I find very interesting.

2019-09-17 19:56:02 UTC  

When Jesus said he came to Earth to pit brother v brother, he was specifically talking about that you should put God before family loyalties. Same here. Then most families were not Christian - it is saying if your family is not Christian then you should abandon them in favor of God

2019-09-17 19:56:26 UTC  

Do not value family over God

2019-09-17 20:01:55 UTC  

Okay. I actually agree with that assessment, God should always come first. So why did he say it without any similar context?

2019-09-17 20:01:58 UTC  

He used that as his opening statement

2019-09-17 20:02:17 UTC  

He didn’t say “Value God over Family.”

2019-09-17 20:04:11 UTC  

He used that as a flagship statement when speaking to a large crowd.

2019-09-17 20:07:35 UTC  

@Attika Because he already preached loyalty to God is supreme

2019-09-17 20:07:58 UTC  

And when he did preach - most of his listeners families were not Christian - they knew what he was talking about

2019-09-17 20:12:33 UTC  

True. I can get agree with what you are saying. But there are still other points where he contradicts Torah. In fact right here he explicitly states that he contradicts Torah.

2019-09-17 20:12:40 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587028275918929925/623612308664483850/image0.png

2019-09-17 20:18:39 UTC  

@Attika And?

2019-09-17 20:18:51 UTC  

Christianity opposes the Torah and Judaism

2019-09-17 20:18:54 UTC  

That is expected

2019-09-17 20:18:58 UTC  

I know.

2019-09-17 20:19:03 UTC  

That’s the problem.