Some believe that it was formed from the echoes of a larger Big Crunch from a previous iteration of the universe. Some believe that it was formed from the collision of other multiverses.

The issue is that science is inherently limited to the material

Bye Phil goodnight

Apologetics also don’t work, it’s hard to prove „god“ of any sort existed

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Believe but Jesus was real, physically, and it's been proven.

There was some external reason as to the formation of the universe

Night Phil

People saw Jesus nobody saw the "big bang"

So what Mohammad

I might head out in a few minutes but I'll stay for a few and argue a bit more

So was

I'm not disregarding all other claims I'm stating one.

The problem with this retarded argument is literally anything could feasibly fit the role of this "universal creator"

And again, this plays on the assumption of the universe being causally created by a single event

We have *no true idea* what created the universe, what caused the bang, what came before it.

Time *as we know it* began at the Bang, this doesn't mean that "nothing" came before it

And cosmological "nothingness" is very different from true "nothingness"

I'll tell you what caused the bang it's gonna be God when he nukes the labcoat test tube nerds with a 0% right trackrecord

We have never seen true "nothingness" and there is good reason to believe that the quantum noise is ever-present

What do you mean by 0% right, by the way?

Scientific exploration has never in human history gotten a single thing right?

Nope

And I guess your church does better?

Yeah they keep their story straight

Meanwhile the science cucks one week red wine is good for your heart next week oh it's actually really bad for your heart

Yeah that's why many Christians believe in evolution now

You yourself were using evolution to bolster your claims previously.

((Christians))

Science and the scientific method is built on being repeatedly less wrong through experimentation — and now we are a whole lot less wrong than even 25 years ago

Sorry i had to do that

Science is a good thing

Not the Christians

I am a Christian and also pro science

They stick their feet in the mud and believe in retarded shit from 2000 years ago still.

They are not mutually exclusive

Literally scientists don't know anything at all

It’s largely American hardline protties that cause issues

OK, you're obviously trolling now

They don't agree and when you ask why anything oh they don't know

Not Catholics, and not mainstream euro prots