is that ultimate loyalty is to the crown

not the nation

Well true i guess

Nationalism cannot existed with a Monarchy

Germany?

It's either "For the Kaiser" or "For Germany"

Nationalism was became popular in germany because of napoleon occupying it and most of germany or germna states are monarchs

Nationalism will always topple a monarchy

Because you cannot pledge *ultimate* loyalty to both a monarch and a nation

And imo i hate the russian empire as much as i hate the USSR

Both supressed ukrainian nationalism

Nationalism and monarchist worked quite well in the german states

But where did ultimate loyalty lay

To the nation, or to the Crown

To, god, nation and to the kaiser

in that order

Well in order it's god, nation, kaiser

imo it would be God, Family, Nation

in that order

That's why there's a phrase ' fur kaizer, gott und vaterland'!

a more expanded list for me would be God, Family, Nation, Group(Slavic), Secondary Group(european)

Well it's kinda supid for me to include groups there.

why is that

Well it's just long and unattractive?

Oh, you meant your loyalty

yea

Nvm

Made a mistake.

Anyway gotta brb. Phone is low bats

aight

@Deleted User volm?

lmao @ God

remove God from it

He is no longer necessary

join me in kiev radio

son of a fucking bitch

look at this shit

look at it

bullshit

its real what the fuck