better yet

the universe

either

Welcome to the return of metaphysics, my tranny friend. @Riley

oh great! metaphysics!

rather than looking for a scientific explanation, we will just assume its magic!

alright buddy

lets hear your explanation

Physico-materialism/Darwinism cannot explain how humans got here. It's a way for the materialists/empiricists to satisfy their need for causality, by denying the supra-rational realm, and affirming only the sensory plane, to replace true causes for imaginary ones which conform in appearance to the possibilities of the corporeal world.

There's a reason they call it naive empiricism.

ok but

how did the universe get here

or humans

Obviously via a divine mind.

do you accept big bang cosmology

Numbers exist. Logic exists. They are not merely human constructs. It cannot simply be conflated within this world.

No, I don't.

have you read up on it?

It was stuffed in my face in high school.

alright well may I ask you a question

about the big bang

I even know who the principle promoters of this view are.

The Royal Society in England.

I told you I reject the Big Bang. It infers a worldview of progress, which I reject.

What do you think about the abundance of active galactic nuclei in the distant reaches of space (which means they existed a long time ago), suggesting an evolved universe?

It's not compatible for either creationists or emanationists.

creationism is a load of garbage

No it isn't.

I know a shitton about physics

why do you deny the big bang

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Creationism is simply creation ex nihilo - meaning creation out of nothing.

what scientific evidence do you have that refutes it

Don't try to build a strawman argument because you debated a few Protestants.

uhhh..im not

im asking you to debunk the big bang

I'm not a scientist.

Sorry, what I mean to say is...

I don't worship Science, what is known as 'scientism'.

Alright so if you don't know why the big bang is false

why do you claim it is false