This is to presuppose that there is a world outside of our own, a more 'real' world I suppose.

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But they are not. Numbers are universal. They exist independent of your mind's perception.

There is an objective reality.

uhh ok?

I believe in a celestial hierarchy, and the existence of the supreme Being/the one, manifested as pure Being, whose essence is that of pure truth, pure beauty, etc ...

ok can you prove it

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I can and I have.

And I could continue to do so.

no, no you havnet

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you have been vague this entire conversation

You are displaying what is called 'cognitive dissonance'.

i asked you to prove that God created man

and you started talking about whether or not numbers are real

like

can you answer the damn question?

"In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort experienced by a person who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values. This discomfort is triggered by a situation in which a person's belief clashes with new evidence perceived by the person."

alright so we are going to continue to dodge the question

Well, seen as you love analytic data and modern revelations so much, I guess you the example of DNA.

And how this requires a Mind.

ok what about DNA

A mind independent of the world.

biochemistry is not my specialty but ill give it a shot

ok

prove it

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You don't need to be versed in biochemistry.

You only need to have a basic understanding of information theory, as well as understanding the Mind vs Matter debate.

The problem with you is you've been trained all your life to only believe in sensory data. That to you is what is called science.

Darwinism actually rejects logic.

Modern scientists like Neil DeGrasse Tyson will even say things like how we don't need philosophy anymore.

ok so you arent goign to prove it

I literally just gave you some fucking information, tranny.

yoru sorta going off on a tangent here

oh boy we are resorting to insults

no, you didn't lmao

Come back to me and explain how we have information coded within DNA, and how they can be explained through a pure materialist worldview.

have you ever tried looking it up

I am a former engineering student. I achieved 100% on all my papers, including my physics modules.