Message from @Prophect

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2019-09-10 16:47:16 UTC  

please tell me

2019-09-10 16:47:19 UTC  

and I will do my best

2019-09-10 16:47:31 UTC  

I held your hand

2019-09-10 16:47:36 UTC  

I went through every detail

2019-09-10 16:47:36 UTC  

irrational desires are bad for people
they lead to risk taking behaviour and sadness and depression for those that are unable to fulfil them @Prophect

2019-09-10 16:47:38 UTC  

what am i missing?

2019-09-10 16:47:50 UTC  

Nothing

2019-09-10 16:48:02 UTC  

then why did you say that? we already went over it

2019-09-10 16:48:02 UTC  

many

2019-09-10 16:48:05 UTC  

many times

2019-09-10 16:48:11 UTC  

you even repeated what I said

2019-09-10 16:48:11 UTC  

I am simply stating that you will not be a woman so do not try and make me call you a woman

2019-09-10 16:48:15 UTC  

ok fair enough @Deleted User

2019-09-10 16:48:25 UTC  

She isn't making you do anything

2019-09-10 16:48:26 UTC  

So do you understand why it does not constitute as a delusion

2019-09-10 16:48:37 UTC  

She just would prefer you call her she, I assume

2019-09-10 16:48:39 UTC  

@Deleted User her desire is genetic and unchangeable

2019-09-10 16:48:46 UTC  

you can't talk her out of it

2019-09-10 16:48:51 UTC  

And I try and use reasonable pronouns if asked for

2019-09-10 16:48:55 UTC  

so what do you suggest?

2019-09-10 16:49:05 UTC  

we do with her

2019-09-10 16:50:39 UTC  

not unchangeable there are many cases of people overcoming gender dysphoria without reassignment
i dont believe that just because something is involuntary that it should be accepted
especially if it is leading to negative consequences for those at the mercy of it @Prophect

2019-09-10 16:50:55 UTC  

It is unchangable.

2019-09-10 16:51:27 UTC  

You will never be a woman. You are a man. You can desire to be a woman, but just don’t try and make me consider you a woman. That’s all I’m saying.

2019-09-10 16:52:15 UTC  

ok but do you admit that its not a delusion

2019-09-10 16:52:21 UTC  

are you slow or something. no one made you do that and she admitted she's a male biologically. @Attika

2019-09-10 16:52:22 UTC  

based on the APA's standards

2019-09-10 16:53:14 UTC  

i wouldnt say that it is a delusion
i would say that it is an irrational desire

2019-09-10 16:55:33 UTC  

It's pretty fucking complex really. If the dysphoria makes you wanna die every time you thought of your biological sex, the only solution I see is transitioning.

2019-09-10 16:55:55 UTC  

So I might agree that some people may lose the desire later on

2019-09-10 16:55:57 UTC  

But not all

2019-09-10 16:56:37 UTC  

Transitioning increases Suicide rates

2019-09-10 16:56:41 UTC  

so...
are we willing to admit that national socialism is indeed a coherent ideology

2019-09-10 16:56:54 UTC  

@Maksim trust me thats not actually true

2019-09-10 16:57:18 UTC  

@Deleted User >trust me

2019-09-10 16:57:20 UTC  

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2019-09-10 16:57:27 UTC  

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2019-09-10 16:57:42 UTC  

hey!!! thats like nationalist takfir

2019-09-10 16:58:02 UTC  

What's incoherent about national socialism?

2019-09-10 16:58:13 UTC  

well its based on subjective things

2019-09-10 16:58:25 UTC  

technically all things are