Message from @Veraien

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2019-10-23 12:56:57 UTC  

^

2019-10-23 12:57:30 UTC  

the british literally caused the conflicts in the Middle east by making countrys based on oil and money rather then ethnic groups and religion

2019-10-23 12:57:35 UTC  

except...
you havent established any causal relationship between british policy and the refugee crisis @Veraien

2019-10-23 12:58:03 UTC  

all you have said is that britain had a role in the existence of israel

2019-10-23 12:59:13 UTC  

And you said Israel is responsible for the refugee crisis

2019-10-23 12:59:13 UTC  

Had Israel never existed

2019-10-23 12:59:18 UTC  

Neither would the refugee crisis

2019-10-23 12:59:28 UTC  

British empire makes modern middle east and israel -> israel immediately starts operations to expand -> arabs hate jews already and view palestine as a islamic holy land, now in the hands of infidels and westerners -> arabs begin a campaign against israel -> israel wins 6 day war -> causing a long and destructive line of wars and conflict caused by israel and its european/american puppets

2019-10-23 12:59:44 UTC  

nuance and a knowledge of history are required

2019-10-23 13:00:07 UTC  

weve been in the middle east for oil and israel since the 80s and 90s

2019-10-23 13:00:25 UTC  

no the fact that israel exists had nothing to do with the crisis, operations by the us and israel caused the crisism it has literally nothing to do with britain

2019-10-23 13:00:43 UTC  

how did israel get formed

2019-10-23 13:01:02 UTC  

lmao
it was largely due to british policy

2019-10-23 13:01:04 UTC  

by the balfor declaration

2019-10-23 13:01:16 UTC  

which was written by the british

2019-10-23 13:01:28 UTC  

israel exists due to the british

2019-10-23 13:01:54 UTC  

right, so in your mind the american revolution caused the demographic displacement in the united states? @Veraien

2019-10-23 13:02:09 UTC  

and israel has conducted a campaign of war and conflict onto the middle east which is further elevated by the borders or country's also created by the british

2019-10-23 13:02:10 UTC  

yes

2019-10-23 13:02:20 UTC  

every event in history

2019-10-23 13:02:23 UTC  

has a reason for it

2019-10-23 13:02:32 UTC  

things do not spring from nothing

2019-10-23 13:02:47 UTC  

the easiest example is ww2

2019-10-23 13:03:12 UTC  

youre incapable of reasoning
in what way is the american revolution responsible for the browning of america?

2019-10-23 13:03:30 UTC  

ww2 happened because of the treaty of versatile crippled Germany, because they lost the war and the french wanted revenge for the war of 1871

2019-10-23 13:03:48 UTC  

thats historical determinism tbh

2019-10-23 13:03:58 UTC  

not really that sound

2019-10-23 13:04:09 UTC  

cause and effect my dude

2019-10-23 13:04:13 UTC  

lmao

2019-10-23 13:04:28 UTC  

you havent established a causal relationship
only correlation

2019-10-23 13:04:49 UTC  

when an event happens those events cause reactions which in turn cause other events to happen as a result

2019-10-23 13:04:56 UTC  

its not that hard of a concept to understand

2019-10-23 13:05:09 UTC  

its a common thing in history

2019-10-23 13:05:28 UTC  

events are decades in the making due to smaller events that take place

2019-10-23 13:05:34 UTC  

like wars

2019-10-23 13:05:43 UTC  

the causes for wars can span decades

2019-10-23 13:05:52 UTC  

not just in the build up period

2019-10-23 13:06:19 UTC  

your blatantly refusing to acknowledge your country's failings and errors

2019-10-23 13:06:32 UTC  

what you have established is a correlation between israel existing and israel conducting a certain amount of operations
there is no sound way that you can argue that britain is responsible for these operations

2019-10-23 13:06:57 UTC  

because the situation in the middle east would never have happened if the british did not support the forming of israel and honoured their pacts with their colonial holdings in the middle east

2019-10-23 13:07:11 UTC  

historical determinism[2]