people have been killed with guns, mostly gang related incidents so i dont care

the next highest is suicide

also dont care

and that the reason that they could kill with guns is because guns exist

take out the gun

the sword existed

the spear

the rock

the fist

gun manufacturers cause murder
we have established this now

its a very easy way to kill yes

but they themselves are only selling a product

what you do with that product is also your choice

does a swordsmith cause murder?

a spearmaker?

a fletcher?

no

lmao ok i cant continue this convo its devolved into idiocy

they only create a product

and you have derailed it

britain only created israel

because you are unable to argue the actual facts that israel and ALL of its actions are only possible by the balor declaration, charted by the british at the expense of previous agreements with the arab nations

creating decades of ethnic conflict and war

this is a historical fact

and you shame your country by needlessly defending it

is it possible because of it, yes
did it cause it, no

dont lump the crimes of the USA and israel at my doorstep lmao

>crimes of the US

the united states did not create israel

the united states did not betray their former colonial holdings

the united states did not commit genocide on the palestinians

nigga
now you are flat out denying american involvement
youre doing the thing that you have accused me of

so that israel may be formed

the second amendment caused columbine

the united states had little to do with israel

no that is the fault of modernity

the existence of ireland caused the troubles

school shootings did not exist prior to the 80s and 90s

isnt historical determinism fun?

the underlying causes are not so obvious you know

the 2nd amendment does not cause shootings on its own