id rather be a serf serving my lord, then being a wage cuck

serving israel

when workers only receive subsistence (what they "need"), and hence they will work poorly.

yes you could spend time in prison for idly subsisting

https://nintil.com/the-soviet-union-achieving-full-employment/

@Veraic The issue with feudalism is the problem with common rights vs. enclosure.

it depended on the lord in question and the policys of the nation

not all serfs had the same exact conditions

@Veraic come w me and we will be our own masters 🙂

and it depends on the time period as well

@adolphus the sorrowful the only master i have is the Lord

no god

god aint real man

love how the commie ignores my arguments lole...

Sounds cringe.

shows how cringe they are.

>god ain't real
The ath*ist reveals himself.

God isnt real to you because you ignore him

alter wtf was your argument even, that when workers get only the bare minimum they will work poorly?

yes i know

i dont think that should be the case

???????

tfw serfs owned land and you dont

it is the case

https://nintil.com/the-soviet-union-achieving-full-employment/ @adolphus the sorrowful Here's an article on unemployment in the ussr. :)

i believe in wages tho ? under socialism, while the state still exists as an active entity at least.

i just think the problem lies in the way you recieve the full fruits of your labor.

under the status quo, you're missing a lot of the benefits of the return of the surplus value you reduce because it is extracted by a capitalist for profit

Bruh

in a socialist society, you'd recieve the benefits in a way of, say, a universal healthcare system, a universal education system, etc. etc. and also a wage.

but those things cost money

and that has to come from somewhere

>universal healthcare

namely the working population

im telling u where it comes from though

the profit that would be accumulated by the capitalist

you would have to pay heavy taxes to afford the universay education and healthcare

thats from the state not some capitalist

sure you may have some more spending money

but you cant create programs without money

ur not understanding what im saying... im saying that we need to reorganize production to REMOVE the profit motive. the surplus value extracted from the worker that would traditionally go to fatten a capitalist's wallet