Who knows what will help reptile but reptile? I think he should get as many angles as he can.

@Akeldama never.

thats racist

if you believe your fate is foregone then it's truly foregone

only through faith can the ocean be crossed

I think faith is best directed at the self.

Long time no see E S P.

ye ye

where in the world is quietok?

no idea

but faith is important

directing at self, sure

In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law?

Is it like the hand of God hovering above?

At least it is true that man has no control; even over his own will.

not true!

God helps those who help themselves, also god doesn't hand out what you are incapable of handling.

where there's a will there's a way

@Ena I think people DO have control over their Will.

I've edited mine quite a few times.

Would that also not be predetermined?

An illusion to give you a false sense of control

I see flaws with that theory

Only insofar as that God wants you to grow, and so any growth was something God planned for.

I do not know if God wants us to grow

Fate could simply be a law

and unrelated to any deity

god loves simplicity

God wants all sets and all potentials to be represented as clearly as possible.

That representation is only possible if individuals grow into their best versions.

I think God likes complexity.

For someone to be separated from fate they must not have a cause.
A child not born from a mother, a struggler against the world that will be able to break the chains of anyone he comes in contact with.

Every person should know they are their own parent.

the universe grows ever more complex

until one day

Guyz

It only grows more complex. It never gets less complex.

@Akeldama

We can't go back.

not so! not so!

what goes up must come down