again, you're assuming national unity to something along the lines of hooking people up to wires and puppeting them

forgiveness won't fix anything

you make it sound like a "work together" thing it sounds almost utopic ot me

@Tom Index Recently, a record store in seattle found an old uncashed royalty check for Nirvana's Nevermind. The check was for $26.57. I liked it. It reminded me of lovecraft a bit. Just the way the characters reality flowed was reminiscent of hp dreamcycle stuff. It also dips in and out of reality, phasing out through the fourth wall, then back in again.

reminded me of psychosis thoughts a bit.

utopias are a lie, and i recognize this, yet that should not stop people from improving on society to keep it as successful as possible

don't forget people still function through instincts as their base, so try to create a model around that

those instincts being?

why not get people to overcome their base so you can make something more interesting to meet that?

@Lucipher Tom is not part of the same reality as most people

it won't I know that, its more of why bother with things that are no longer in your control?

@jmack I got that from the way he talks and the stuff he says.

I rather adpet to deal with all the world trying to change and change will happen on my own.

you can have all the order you want, but the moment a single person feels threatened by something they will have a violent or impulsive response

that's what i mean

amongst other things related to non- critical thinking

we're animals

an illogical reaction is easily defeatable

we can remove our animal instincts, we are far more advanced than them

irrationality can be dealt with other means

a logical congregation built around an illogical reaction isn't

most people don't like critical thinking because it makes their reality go fuzzy and turn to sand.

they don't like the sand.

Turn my reality to sand, please and thanks

treating humanity as automata is what causes government to stagnate- government no longer has any meaning nor any goal

Well I have given up and just making the best out of a really fuck up situation.

it's founded solely as an appeal to masses

i said people wouldn't care cause they aren't part of the gov

Deitie smart

@The_Hashy_Brown first you have to slice every concept and idea into a standalone bit or file. a grain.

done

honestly love having these talks as they are so much better then REEEEES and memeing ^^

it's related to the numbers too

a gov can care good enough

government activity on the local scale won't make people feel as if they mean something? @Bolsapryca

if it has hundreds of millions of people

my country is relatively small, i don't see an issue with large masses

@vodkk shouldn't people be responsible for making themselves feel like they mean something, or deriving the meaning themselves from their own experiences?

on the local scale sure, but you're creating a macro community now, those local branches would end up wanting to separate from the main branch

@Lucipher individual contributions to the whole do just that