it's related to the numbers too

a gov can care good enough

government activity on the local scale won't make people feel as if they mean something? @Bolsapryca

if it has hundreds of millions of people

my country is relatively small, i don't see an issue with large masses

@vodkk shouldn't people be responsible for making themselves feel like they mean something, or deriving the meaning themselves from their own experiences?

on the local scale sure, but you're creating a macro community now, those local branches would end up wanting to separate from the main branch

@Lucipher individual contributions to the whole do just that

why just take the meaning from someone who hands it to you, all nice and tidy?

@Bolsapryca local needs among the population vary materially- i'll give you that much

cultural uniformity ultimately solves any separatist feelings unrelated to the material

Anahata

people can't make themselves feel responsible without a strong sense of self discipline

it's why i think of centralization as solely transitory

otherwise they'll develop habits that eventually make them less and less productive

effectively killing them

Kurse kitsunke

i don't like discussing politics cause there's no right answer, there's no perfect model that will solve people creating trouble cause like i said we're programmed to create trouble

back then the trigger was nature

Fucking

Yeah

Worlds

Of

it doesn't matter if we go back

Marceliiese

no one ever advertised "perfect" models, it's your fault for assuming that

we'll stil be fucked

Tarot

politics is just a method of pragmatism

a perfect model has to perfectly predict human reaction and a way to effectively combat it

Most of society and what everyone deems what is normal doesn't get along with me so well since my life is like ultra unnormal. I don't hate/resent society for that though.

"Imperfect"

@Bolsapryca politics is the study of the perfect model- if you don't believe there is one discussing it is self defeating

no, people advertise the model where they project their own personal needs and set of morals @Teabλg Johnson

it's still pointless

trust me I have tired. sometimes it best to be an outcast.