That was looking at preliminary data

and mda is pretty neurotoxic

ah okey

Not actual effects

neat

molly makes me want to go outside and hug trees

Really want to get lsd but I walk on eggshells and dont ask around

the neurochemical cascade that occurs with mdma will reliably cause oxidative damage leading to acute downregulation unless doses are kept modest for bodyweight and body temperature is kept down, etc

they use chemicals much akin to mdma in neurochemical effect profile to cause permanent downregulation at single dose in lab rats

feds are now allowing PTSD treatment now again via pure MDMA.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Para-Chloroamphetamine

Aren't they also testing ket for therapy?

yes my little sister is on it and doing a lot better too.

both ket, mdma, as well as classical psychs have a lot of application in psychological treatment

weed does too

I mean it was bound to happen.

The govt allowing actual research into these makes me happy.

All the studies done on MDA showing neurotoxic effects were done on rats with dosages hundreds of times above human recreational doses

They're not reliable

The rats literally got serotonin syndrome

I am glad to as the war on drugs seem like it might end somewhat 50 to 100 years from now.

Which caused the damage

I would say that may be plausible because I know that some scientists are disingenuous and do things like that

The same thing was done with dxm

I feel like it would end sooner considering how exponential shit is.

And pure amphetamine

regardless of that I do know that chronic mdma use will cause receptor downregulation

And similar done with weed cocaine heroin etc

through oxidative damage primarily

this is known in vivo in humans

That's what I'm referring to

Damage to receptors caused by serotonin syndrome

nah I mean there are people that will present with similar cognitive and processing deficits from it to the extent that mdma zombies are a known thing in subcultures where the use is common

like raves

Boojahideen rise up

it's not just serotonin syndrome that does it

Most ravers are idiots in the first place m8

shake and bake 2L soda bottle meth is something I wanna try to do. In a abanondo or in a old shack nobody is using out in the woods.

Correlation

affects dopaminergic neurons as well

Causation