Babylon? Yeah no. Akkadians took Sumer, and that's when they got the babylonian culture

they transfer ownership to uruk

and only because of this

it existed during sumerian times

does babylon and other states

ever get to come into being

but lived long after sumeria

as a mix between Semitic and Sumerian religion

Sumer*** @sky daddy

you say they arent related but

that isnt really

considerate of time

and how things moved within it

or through it

They're related in the sence that Akkadians took Sumer and started calling themselves Babylonians @Dorieus

well its completely off topic to bring up arratt when the original conversation was "zoojew, learn the difference between chaldea and babylon"

what does arratt have anything to do with that

a lot ._.

no it doesnt

if aratta hadnt transfered ownership to uruk there would not be either

the difference between babylon and chaldea is assyrian conquer

@Departure

nothing to do with arratt

if you say so >.>

ill go back to quiet

I hate to be this guy, but the Furry Sociopath is right

i didnt realize it was about right and wrong i just looked at the chat and thought i saw someone saying that

babylon was the first civilization

so i wanted to help

Wait

who said that?

Because that's straight up wrong.

like i said i will go back to quiet

Civilization wise, we can be sure the indus valley is older than Sumer which is older than Babylon

and Gobekli Tepe is older than the Indus Valley

no

This also doesn't factor in the Chinks

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/427453478479331342/647935212885639169/image0.jpg

chinese are after sumeria

technically