Message from @Dval

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2019-10-31 03:53:47 UTC  

Which has become nigh on impossible at this point

2019-10-31 03:53:48 UTC  

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2019-10-31 03:54:21 UTC  

They also become their own little clique bodies that do shady shit

2019-10-31 03:55:34 UTC  

that's mostly because the president appoints them if im being honest

2019-10-31 03:56:59 UTC  

like in Massachusetts v United States, the courts ruled against the EPA saying america shouldn't tackle climate change, and said they abused their discretional ability

2019-10-31 03:57:54 UTC  

of course the EPA would have interests in attacking climate change if the science pointed to it, but the head of the EPA is appointed by the president, and basically has to do what theyre told unless theyre brought before the supreme court AFTER their ajudication process

2019-10-31 03:58:37 UTC  

interestingly enough the counterargument the EPA had is strikingly similar to what **modern** climate change deniers say

2019-10-31 03:59:29 UTC  

-science is inconclusive
-developing countries are more to blame
-enacting change would inhibit our president's ability to act on it on the international stage

2019-10-31 04:00:00 UTC  

1st point is weak, 2nd is undeniably true, but the 3rd point is so lackluster it almost works against them

2019-10-31 05:23:09 UTC  

That axis is really filled to the brim with retarded dichotomies tbh

2019-10-31 05:29:08 UTC  

"plus this era's economy is so much more complex than the 1940s that federal agencies and their massive bureaucracy is almost completely necessary for proper regulation of our markets"

2019-10-31 05:29:27 UTC  

T. Has never read an economics book not given by his professor

2019-10-31 05:30:49 UTC  

Whatever you do, dont do anything crazy and build something like renewable energy and fast, efficient public transport trains

2019-10-31 05:31:05 UTC  

Also the first point in your above statement on climate change is undeniably true

2019-10-31 05:31:36 UTC  

Coal is a virtually limitless resource and the earth is currently carbon starved

2019-10-31 05:31:57 UTC  

Co2 causing emmisions is the exact opposite of the truth

2019-10-31 05:32:46 UTC  

Higher temperatures cause burn offs which release co2 as is attested to by co2 following rise in temp and not preceding it

2019-10-31 05:33:54 UTC  

Co2 thereby creates higher rates of plant growth which slowly cools the planet via absorbing energy from sunlight and transmuting it into calories

2019-10-31 05:35:30 UTC  

Global warming is propagandistic excuse to pull on the empathy of whites in a manner that convinces us to artificially cripple our industry capacity

2019-10-31 05:36:17 UTC  

Furthermore public transportation would not be an issue without zoning laws

2019-10-31 11:45:46 UTC  

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2019-10-31 12:50:12 UTC  

@Major Slow its more about law than economics, but i appreciate the attempt to disregard federal agencies

2019-10-31 12:53:33 UTC  

Congress isnt specialized enough to be able to make nuanced regulation like the FCC, USDA, FDA, DT would be able to

2019-10-31 12:54:34 UTC  

Plus federal agencies are *technically* constitutionally sanctioned through the interstate commerce delegation

2019-10-31 12:56:02 UTC  

Not to mention how hard it is to measure the impact of certain agencies or policies like NEPA since it would, by nature, disuade certain other damaging policies

2019-10-31 12:57:58 UTC  

And the first point in the climate thing wasnt my response, it was the EPA's response in the supreme court case

2019-10-31 12:58:58 UTC  

Which generally gets countered with "our tech has gotten better over time so we cant necessarily trust temp. Readings in records pre-(whenever the manometer and thermometer were invented)"

2019-10-31 12:59:39 UTC  

Im not specialized in climate science though so im not gonna act like an authority on the subject

2019-10-31 13:01:31 UTC  

That would be for... federal agencies <:smugpepe:619749634402942998>

2019-10-31 13:41:38 UTC  

I dont necessarily disagree with any of this, but I think its quite apparent that these agencies take shits frequently.

2019-10-31 13:42:16 UTC  

And can just be bought out (e.g. EPA FDA)

2019-10-31 13:43:06 UTC  

The State Department (Jews), the CIA

2019-10-31 13:44:25 UTC  

They're hardly monitored for conduct, they'll go ob reckless spending adventures (Pentagon)

2019-10-31 13:44:44 UTC  

A lot of shit needs to be thrown out (and people hung, tbh)

2019-10-31 13:47:00 UTC  

I dont disagree with having federal agencies, I disagree with how they're run and who runs them. I think everyone, to a certain extent, is of this opinion.

2019-10-31 13:50:59 UTC  

definitely, federal agencies get away with congressional-level legislation while under the control of the executive branch

2019-10-31 13:51:23 UTC  

it's unconstitutional, and more checks and balances need to be put in place

2019-10-31 13:51:38 UTC  

maybe a new constitutional amendment dedicated to setting up a new branch of government to regulate federal agencies?

2019-10-31 13:52:27 UTC  

right now their de-facto check are US district courts, but they generally defer to the expertise of the federal agency, and are only reachable after their long, annoying ajudication process

2019-10-31 13:52:46 UTC  

that being said, things like the VA are necessary federal agencies

2019-10-31 13:53:05 UTC  

the FBI, although corrupt in a lot of cases, is pretty effective at handling interstate crimes