Message from @Verchiel
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@1yeliab_sufur1 hello
Hello @tomindexc
let's discuss saturnian symbolism and its significance
there's a mystery school in germany called fraternitas saturni too
lots of symbolism and worship for the "black sun"
anyone got more info?
``During the Renaissance, the identification of Cronus and Chronos gave rise to "Father Time" wielding the harvesting scythe. H. J. Rose in 1928[24] observed that attempts to give "Κρόνος" a Greek etymology had failed. Recently, Janda (2010) offers a genuinely Indo-European etymology of "the cutter", from the root *(s)ker- "to cut" (Greek κείρω (keirō), cf. English shear), motivated by Cronus's characteristic act of "cutting the sky" (or the genitals of anthropomorphic Uranus). The Indo-Iranian reflex of the root is kar, generally meaning "to make, create" (whence karma), but Janda argues that the original meaning "to cut" in a cosmogonic sense is still preserved in some verses of the Rigveda pertaining to Indra's heroic "cutting", like that of Cronus resulting in creation:
RV 10.104.10 ārdayad vṛtram akṛṇod ulokaṃ
he hit Vrtra fatally, cutting [> creating] a free path.
RV 6.47.4 varṣmāṇaṃ divo akṛṇod
he cut [> created] the loftiness of the sky.``
``This may point to an older Indo-European mytheme reconstructed as *(s)kert wersmn diwos "by means of a cut he created the loftiness of the sky".[25] The myth of Cronus castrating Uranus parallels the Song of Kumarbi, where Anu (the heavens) is castrated by Kumarbi. In the Song of Ullikummi, Teshub uses the "sickle with which heaven and earth had once been separated" to defeat the monster Ullikummi,[26] establishing that the "castration" of the heavens by means of a sickle was part of a creation myth, in origin a cut creating an opening or gap between heaven (imagined as a dome of stone) and earth enabling the beginning of time (chronos) and human history.[27] A theory debated in the 19th century, and sometimes still offered somewhat apologetically,[28] holds that Κρόνος is related to "horned", assuming a Semitic derivation from qrn.[29] Andrew Lang's objection, that Cronus was never represented horned in Hellenic art,[30] was addressed by Robert Brown,[31] arguing that, in Semitic usage, as in the Hebrew Bible, qeren was a signifier of "power". When Greek writers encountered the Semitic deity El, they rendered his name as Cronus.[32]
Robert Graves remarks that "cronos probably means 'crow', like the Latin cornix and the Greek corōne", noting that Cronus was depicted with a crow, as were the deities Apollo, Asclepius, Saturn and Bran.[33]``
Saturn is the agent of isolation and transmutation by trial and separation.
Kronos Ouranios is the abundant aspect of the Saturnal--that which contains the hidden potential for expanse, crops grow etc.
Kronos Chthonios is the malevolent aspect of the Saturnal--that which cuts, tends to decay, death, melancholia, nihilism, and sacrifice.
Bearing all of this in mind, there is a substantial degree of astrotheological meta where it concerns the nature of Jews, and to a certain extent Muslims. They are the two most influential Saturnian cults at this time. Saturn's North pole, etc.
*The interpretatio graeca identified him with the Titan Cronus. In ancient Rome, he was identified with Saturn, and the cultural exchange between Rome and Carthage as a result of the Second Punic War may have influenced the development of the festival of Saturnalia.[7]
Greco-Roman sources report that the Carthaginians burned their children as offerings to Baʿal Hammon. (See "Moloch" for a discussion of these traditions and conflicting thoughts on the matter.) Attributes of his Romanized form as an African Saturn indicate that Hammon (Amunus in Philo's work) was a fertility god.[8]*
Wow interesting. Thats with Temple OS? Was that rng after this conversation? @Alucardxft
Oy vey
Oy vey indeed. Look ay the key words
Tl;dr kikes are problematic
@Verchiel
Yes. Each Word was picked. No code for sentences unless you code it in. The above was accomplished using a oracle functions.
Very impressive
Also, I can hear the 6 million bleated screams right now "Verchiel why are you talking about Jews again reeeee"
If you want to talk about Saturnian cults, as an astrotheologocal phenomenon, you will inevitably be discussing Jews and every fact or conspiracy theory remotely attached to them
Doesn't matter what angle you want to approach them really. You'll get the same conclusion about them through hermetic analysis, religious analysis, or racial analysis
And tbqh I think the hermetic analysis is far more telling than anything else
lmfao temple os