i only go into the astral to get messages abt like stuff from the past

can ghosts enter the astral? I thought that is purely a place inside your own mind?

uhhhh

uh oh lmao

If he starts saying some shit like trust him more than other people, abortabortabort

that sounds a lot like a tulpa

well i call whatever plane dead ppl on in the astral plane as a catch all term

@Diadact hes never said that lol

bein serious tho

Can he effect anything physical? Like move something in your house or make a sound other people can hear?

yea

its spoopy

well imo for other ppl lol

Could you record it? Have you ever asked him to effect something physical and you can video tape it?

i was talkin to my friends abt him one day lol

and they were like “ur insane”

i asked him to speak up and all of them heard him say “hello i can hear u”

it was like this disembodied voice lol

@Diadact well no ones ever asked me to b4 lol

i can tho

Please do, like seriously I'd be really interested if you could get something on video like moving an object

either post it here or upload it to YouTube and link it

guys listen

im eating thanksgiving shit rn so i gotta do that first lol

there are obviously some external elements to magic

@Diadact ill just send it here

such as synchronicities and repeated "coincidences"

I completely agree

but not everything about magic is external

I also agree

I think it's internal as much if not more than external

same here m8s

if you believe magic is nothing but internal, youll never get any physical results and then whats the point of practicing anyway?

if you believe magic is nothing but external, youll develop schizophrenic traits and eventually fucking lose it

believe me, ive gone full external before and it took me 6 months to stop hearing fucking voices

@Diadact btw what do u want him to move?

NEVER go full external

ive asked him to shut my door and knock shit over b4 lol

@PugThug youve taught a tulpa tk?

epic

can you post a vid?

@PugThug anything, a door will do