Message from пидорновичок in Charlottesville 2.0 #demonstration_tactics


2017-06-15 02:09:32 UTC  

1. We don't actually expect violence. That's just larping. Antifa only instigates when they have a massive numerical advantage, which they will not, here.

2017-06-15 02:09:50 UTC  

2. The womenfolk have their own cordon, far behind the men. They will be fine.

2017-06-15 02:17:36 UTC  

I think that Vanguard and the DRW have a similar view on 3Ds at inflammatory events

2017-06-15 02:24:13 UTC  

Bringing women to a protest/rally where we expect violence is fucking retarded.

2017-06-15 02:24:28 UTC  

Keep them in the rear.

2017-06-15 02:25:24 UTC  

How can you not expect violence when this was a major loss to them before and they have more time to plan now. They've been proven to be violent at large events

2017-06-15 02:25:57 UTC  

Also, even if you aren't expecting violence, you should prepare for it. Underestimating Antifa's will to escalate is retarded as well.

2017-06-15 02:26:04 UTC  

I'm trying to figure out how expecting violence is larping?

2017-06-15 02:26:18 UTC  

Is everything larping these days?

2017-06-15 02:27:22 UTC  

@Heinz - MI That's what I was saying. They will be the rear, as I understand.

2017-06-15 02:27:46 UTC  

Maybe I am mistaken.

2017-06-15 02:27:58 UTC  

In which case, someone else is tactically mistaken.

2017-06-15 02:28:32 UTC  

You realize the violence can happen anywhere around the event?

2017-06-15 02:28:58 UTC  

Like a parking lot or something before and after the event

2017-06-15 02:29:24 UTC  

Obviously. Travel in groups, always.

2017-06-15 02:29:38 UTC  

After is probably the most dangerous time.

2017-06-15 02:29:47 UTC  

Okay so this is still an unnecessary risk

2017-06-15 02:30:33 UTC  

If we are bringing women, they should be kept within a perimeter.

2017-06-15 02:30:33 UTC  

Unnecessary? It's a cost-benefit analysis.

2017-06-15 02:30:48 UTC  

@Heinz - MI That is my current understanding.

2017-06-15 02:31:05 UTC  

It better be true, for their sake.

2017-06-15 02:31:08 UTC  

And ours.

2017-06-15 02:31:16 UTC  

We need a map of the location we will be at. If this is just a standard rally where we will be in one place, we can easily set a perimeter.

2017-06-15 02:31:24 UTC  

Beyond that, we need to figure out parking details.

2017-06-15 02:31:33 UTC  

It's a march. Need a bubble to shield them.

2017-06-15 02:31:35 UTC  

If need be, we can organize a shuttle system for people that park far away.

2017-06-15 02:31:50 UTC  

We will have to. I'm sure we will exceed standard parking.

2017-06-15 02:32:06 UTC  

Also, we will need detailed and planned routes from where we park, to wherever we are going that EVERYONE follows.

2017-06-15 02:32:25 UTC  

And showing up early

2017-06-15 02:32:35 UTC  

Last time at CVille 1.0 a lot of people left in small 4-5 person groups. It wasn't a big deal then, but there will be a much stronger antifa presence at this one.

2017-06-15 02:32:48 UTC  

We all need to leave at the same time, and going to the same place.

2017-06-15 02:32:52 UTC  

Agreed.

2017-06-15 02:33:05 UTC  

Our group was huge, and we adopted a group of two to take to their vehicle.

2017-06-15 02:33:19 UTC  

That's why I think a shuttle system would be good. Where we have several people responsible for large vans that park nearby the event that can shuttle others to parking lots farther away.

2017-06-15 02:33:35 UTC  

That is a great idea.

2017-06-15 02:33:40 UTC  

Agreed.

2017-06-15 02:33:43 UTC  

If we know the locations of where we will be marching, lets get them up now.

2017-06-15 02:34:06 UTC  

AFAIK this server is private, so unless we plan on bringing a bunch of randos in we can do it here.

2017-06-15 02:35:04 UTC  

Those several people can be the medics. Anyone injured can go to the van as well.

2017-06-15 02:35:09 UTC  

No. This server is absolutely not private.

2017-06-15 02:35:19 UTC  

We need to get this set in stone far enough in advance that we can all remember it, at least the group leaders. If something happens where we get compromised, we can have enough time to chnage plans without having to panic.