Message from @Jim

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2016-11-12 17:28:34 UTC  

and the US

2016-11-12 17:29:24 UTC  

What is tpp?

2016-11-12 17:29:29 UTC  

It's cancer

2016-11-12 17:29:30 UTC  

I am not American so I don't know

2016-11-12 17:29:32 UTC  

Trans Pacific Partnership.

2016-11-12 17:29:36 UTC  

Do you know TTIP?

2016-11-12 17:29:37 UTC  

Ah

2016-11-12 17:29:40 UTC  

It's the same thing.

2016-11-12 17:29:43 UTC  

Yea

2016-11-12 17:29:53 UTC  

It was an international agreement that would have given multinational corporations direct control over the internet.

2016-11-12 17:29:56 UTC  

Abbreviation threw me off

2016-11-12 17:30:04 UTC  

Yeah no

2016-11-12 17:30:04 UTC  

Allowing them to censor people.

2016-11-12 17:30:10 UTC  

I know

2016-11-12 17:30:12 UTC  

What @Emma said, among other things.

2016-11-12 17:30:15 UTC  

well, ICANN is already a thing

2016-11-12 17:30:19 UTC  

Like literal cancer.

2016-11-12 17:30:32 UTC  

I am going fucking hack fucking everything if that happens

2016-11-12 17:30:41 UTC  

it's not in our hands anymore, the internet that is

2016-11-12 17:30:44 UTC  

Like the free speech thing just barely scratches the surface of how bad the TPP is.

2016-11-12 17:30:51 UTC  

I know

2016-11-12 17:30:58 UTC  

You know how badly YouTube handles copyright? And now it gets so badly abused?

2016-11-12 17:31:05 UTC  

Yes

2016-11-12 17:31:13 UTC  

It'd be like that. Only worse. And on the entire internet. Not just YouTube.

2016-11-12 17:31:42 UTC  

I know

2016-11-12 17:31:44 UTC  

Terrible

2016-11-12 17:32:24 UTC  

It's worse though. It allows for a special international court where multinationals can file criminal charges against anyone regardless of where they live.

2016-11-12 17:32:45 UTC  

You can literally go to jail and there's nothing your country's government can do about it to intervene.

2016-11-12 17:32:45 UTC  

The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN, /ˈaɪkæn/ eye-kan) is a nonprofit organization that is responsible for coordinating the maintenance and procedures of several databases related to the namespaces of the Internet, ensuring the network's stable and secure operation.[1] ICANN performs the actual technical maintenance work of the central Internet address pools and DNS root zone registries pursuant to the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) function contract. The contract regarding the IANA stewardship functions between ICANN and the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) of the United States Department of Commerce ended on October 1, 2016, formally transitioning the functions to the global multi-stakeholder community.

2016-11-12 17:33:08 UTC  

so yeah, this was already a thing, it's out of the US's hands now

2016-11-12 17:33:12 UTC  

Regulation of the internet in any way shape and form is bad

2016-11-12 17:33:25 UTC  

I don't think people are quite right about how terrible ICANN is.

2016-11-12 17:33:28 UTC  

thanks Obummer

2016-11-12 17:33:40 UTC  

They don't actually regulate the internet. They just keep the registry.

2016-11-12 17:33:41 UTC  

Leave it to individual ISP's and websites to self regulate

2016-11-12 17:34:19 UTC  

^that sounds bad too

2016-11-12 17:34:22 UTC  

The worst they can do is make your website mysteriously disappear. And I don't think they can do that without significant backlash.

2016-11-12 17:34:57 UTC  

the fact that they can do so is the problem

2016-11-12 17:35:35 UTC  

So could the US government back when they had it. But they didn't.

2016-11-12 17:35:42 UTC  

ICANN's primary principles of operation have been described as helping preserve the operational stability of the Internet

2016-11-12 17:36:13 UTC  

yes, but with an international board this could create issues that wouldn't occur with it under our ownership