@PureDureSure only if you what to get it grabbed and your ass whooped do to the hood controlling you by the shield

That thing is mall ninja junk

@HueTheHand

If you think that thing is for hand-to-hand, you're sorely mistaken. You mount the rifle for a reason: the standoff distance.

If your watch the promo videos they are trying to promote it as being used for CQB

Mobility is life that thing is death

There is a resin why in Iraq we stoped using full interceptor baddy armor and switched to plate carriers

I'd rather go prone behind cover tbh

But I'll get behind you if you want to carry it ;)

Clearly it's going to be used for breaching/assaults, and in teams. There is a difference between CQB and H2H. If someone gets close enough to you to grab it/you before you've put them down with gunfire, you're already in more trouble than you should be, shield or not.

In situations where law enforcement will have a need for such tactics and equipment, they typically have a great deal more prep time and intel than soldiers are ever afforded. It's for set-piece assaults, not fluid warfare.

@PureDureSure you have never seen combat have you ...

It it is consensus in the LEO and Protection industry that that product is junk and will get people killed

Just like the side armor and arm armor the US MC tried using in Iraq but it got more people hurt then it helped

@HueTheHand

I also have a room temperature IQ, and can't possibly reason through the scenarios mentioned given the available information, before you ask.

Till you've been there you can't get it. I work PSD and was infantry/ PSD in the army for 17 years including 2 tors in the sand box.

That product is JUNK

*slow clap*

If you what to get your self hurt by using junk go for it

Or you can listen to people that know what they are taking about

Context, sir. Look up the thread.

I'm also a certified CQB and small unit combat instructor

There is NO use for that shield mount it restricts you to much

There's no way that the poster before me was serious about using that "juggernaut" getup, either.

And your legs and lower torso are still vulnerable

I'm explaining the reasoning behind their invention and its marketing, not my intended use case

It sounded like you were trying to say it was a good product

I find the idea amusing. Like the bullshit in those "Army of Two" video games. That's all. Though I have no doubt that they'll find some - and you used the appropriate term - mall ninjas in local police departments to sell a few.

And thanks for rubbing it in about your career. Lol. I was robbed of mine. Nominated to USMA by the then-chairman of HASC, but disqualified from service by DODMERB. I even tried a direct commission years later when some requirements were slackened to ease the personnel deficit brought on by GWOT, but was again denied the chance to fight.

Sorry

Lol. How could you have known?! I'm picking. I just wanted to point out that I have desperately wanted that life from a young age (my grandfather did WWII, Korea, and Vietnam, and my uncle graduated USMA in 1987), and I'm grateful we have men who have "seen the elephant" in our camp.

We have lots of combat vets going I know lots of TWP are former military

Our high school made us do a year-long project as Seniors, sort of like a junior dissertation. You did a paper and some sort of physical project, presenting both in a formal lecture at year end in order to graduate. I did a detailed study comparing the German campaign in France, 1940 to Operation Desert Storm. Many civilians are still unaware of the Stryker ICV family. At 16, I was closely following its development and knew I wanted eventual command of one of the brigade combat teams.

My inability to wear the uniform has left a tremendous void in my life, with which only my children and this movement have enabled me to cope.

That sucks

But strikers suck also 😊

Lol. Yes, I have taken some solace in the fact that they've sort of turned out like the second coming of the early Bradleys.

Now they look like rolling fences with all the anti RPH cadges on them

RPG even

Do the men in the field like any of the light armor options? How has the MRAP been received?

TBH I was a light fighter i liked the 1157 HMMWVS

The MRAPS are great but suck for Iraq do to how narrow the roads are