El gringo

You're misreading

take time to read up

So any government owners are workers

cool

so socialism is state control

Misreading what, precisely?

My point was proven

Anyways, you've succeeded in making yourself look retarded.

So much for everyone else losing the argument

@(((El Gringo Narigón))) That's only according to marxist socialism

@(((El Gringo Narigón))) Any market intervention is socialist, socialist policy. While the economy may not be socialist, that policy is. Because socialism also tries to abolish the market, by removing market forces.

Marxist socialism sees state socialism as the transition phase

This guy is relying on Marx's definition, and strictly so

or really

"Anyways, you've succeeded in making yourself look retarded.
So much for everyone else losing the argument"

Marxist-leninism does

Well looks like you guys did lose

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You're using the Marxist-Leninist definition of socialism...

Is the USSR the only example of socialism? Surely not

according to you

it isn't

So why rely on their single definition?

No it isn't

theres many others

IT IS

I can give a huge list

oh, okay

I thought you were going to argue it wasn't their definition

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ Unless the policy is actually the government taking over an industry, it's more a move towards fascism as it's indirect regulation, not actual takeover.

@The Big Oof so wait...how are you defining socialism?

No el gringo

Any intervention is removing the market forces

Any intervention is a socialist policy

@(((El Gringo Narigón))) Socialism is collective ownership, be it directly by the workers or through it by the workers operating the state

taxation, subsidies, regulations, anti trust laws, tarrifs etc etc

it's the literal

meaning

"Social + ism"

of the work

it's the etymology...