Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2019-02-01 14:17:36 UTC  

I see no difference.

2019-02-01 14:17:40 UTC  

What socialists don’t want to abolish the market ?

2019-02-01 14:17:43 UTC  

Or restrict it

2019-02-01 14:17:44 UTC  

Market socialists....

2019-02-01 14:17:54 UTC  

Define market socialist

2019-02-01 14:18:19 UTC  

It's...it's not that hard to understand

2019-02-01 14:18:23 UTC  

it's literally in the name

2019-02-01 14:18:46 UTC  

Which also includes restricting the market forces

2019-02-01 14:19:16 UTC  

Does not follow.

2019-02-01 14:19:22 UTC  

Yes it does.

2019-02-01 14:19:43 UTC  

"The market isn't free"

"Therefore, interventionism is socialism"

This is a fallacy

2019-02-01 14:19:58 UTC  

Nope it’s just socialism has its goals to abolish the market

2019-02-01 14:20:00 UTC  

Or restrict it

2019-02-01 14:20:05 UTC  

If x group advocates for y, then z is a policy of x

2019-02-01 14:20:10 UTC  

Hence any interventionism is socialist

2019-02-01 14:20:15 UTC  

`If x group advocates for y, then z is a policy of x
`

2019-02-01 14:20:27 UTC  

Is what you're saying

2019-02-01 14:20:32 UTC  

Are there any capitalists in the world except ancaps?

2019-02-01 14:20:34 UTC  

That doesn’t make any sense

2019-02-01 14:20:41 UTC  

Well no

2019-02-01 14:20:43 UTC  

Exactly, it doesn't make sense

2019-02-01 14:20:48 UTC  

No your example doesn’t

2019-02-01 14:20:56 UTC  

It doesn’t make sense literally

2019-02-01 14:21:16 UTC  

My point is socialism actively tried to restrict and/or abolish the market

2019-02-01 14:21:18 UTC  

You're really stretching it with your definitions. You're taking the broadest definition of socialism possible, and then using it in defense of the strictest definition of capitalism possible.

2019-02-01 14:21:19 UTC  

Also

2019-02-01 14:21:20 UTC  

another note

2019-02-01 14:21:22 UTC  

By using interventionist methods

2019-02-01 14:21:31 UTC  

"mixed economy" doesn't mean mixed between capitalism and socialism

2019-02-01 14:21:32 UTC  

Who are the people who call themselves capitalists but are not ancaps?

2019-02-01 14:21:34 UTC  

You dont know what the term means

2019-02-01 14:21:43 UTC  

I’ve used the same definition width for both

2019-02-01 14:21:44 UTC  

Although it can refer to this

2019-02-01 14:21:52 UTC  

typically when viewing it in the context of the United States

2019-02-01 14:21:52 UTC  

Mixed economies are socialist and capitalism elements mixed in

2019-02-01 14:21:53 UTC  

it means

2019-02-01 14:22:03 UTC  

mixed between a command economy and a market economy

2019-02-01 14:22:11 UTC  

@Kazimir Malevich is North Korea a democratic republic

2019-02-01 14:22:23 UTC  

Not...all....socialists....want...a...command...economy <:brainlet:508484031625691156>