It's a position of knowledge, that's all.

that's a stupid way of thinking

how would you know if something could not be proven or disproven

You can be an agnostic atheist, but most people who call themselves agnostics are fence sitters

that pretend "both sides are ridiculous"

Gnostic = thinks the existence of a deity can be proven
Agnostic = thinks the existence of a deity cannot be proven
theist = believes in a deity that is apart of a religion or/and involved
atheist = disbelief in all deities

no one uses the term agnostic in the way in which you just defined it

By the criteria of evidence....

except a small group of people

You have to dive into epistemology.

if that is the "correct" definition

@lemoncookie They don't, but a lot of people misuse the word "libertarian"

as well

You can be a libertarian socialist

uh

Gnostic can also refer to Gnosticism

the Demiurge n shit

it's not really misuse, it just means the definition of the term has changed or has multiple meanings

Gnosticism deals with knowledge lol

They think they can know

I'm an atheist, but I think most people here know that

this sounds like a philosophy major nitpicking over terms

Well, I identify as an agnostic.

there's no way to know to the best of my knowledge if "god" exists or not

I'm not sure why people assume we can know anything about "spiritual" matters when there's still epistemic claims we don't know about the materialistic world we see.

how do you know that you understand the materialistic world as well as you think you do

We function under empiricism/rationalism so of course we can't "know" because we acquire knowledge through our senses and reason.

I'm not buying it

Because of inductive reasoning... lol

when I see us vs an ant there may be something that makes us look like an ant intellectually

We can infer things through a process if elimination and by assessing likelihood

I think people overestimate what humans are capable of

and if a real "AI" is ever made that will be made abundantly clear

Probably so we are ignorant apes (literally).

You dont know for sure that I don't make six figures a year and work for the CIA

it's possible that you do

They'll probably find your Discord and are spying on you right now.

more likely that you do actually do that me meeting you in this setting

implying discord isnt already doing so

than meeting you randomly on the street

but its still very very unlikely