Message from @Big Enough™
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This but for America. You see, us Russians have based and redpilled views on balkanization!
So rather than unlimited, wars of attrition your quibble is that we see limited wars of mobility and you see this as a bad thing? In absolute terms we live in one of the most peaceful times in history as a bushwar in some tplac simply doesn’t have the same capacity to wreck devastation on the scale of a global conflict. This also ignores that modern thought regarding 4th generational warfare makes little distinction between hard and soft power, meaning such “conflict” is often seen as development of infrastructure, cultural exchanges, technological upskilling, etc. hardly a poor outcome for the developing world
I don't see this as a bad thing. I see this as one more argument for balkanization of America. If the remaining, good countries won't go to WW3 because of Amerika's ruination, all the better.
That’s unlikely to be the outcome, however
In the absence of a dominant hard power there would be little necessity to apply soft power rather than hard
Cold War did that fine when there were two equal superpowers.
Less so then the current period but the absence of America would not result in the immediate creation of a plurality of superpowers in its wake as no nation as of now has the capacity to project power on a level equivalent to the ussr or they would already be doing so.
This comparison also fails in that I don’t think the potential candidates to fill that position would have the stability or interest in being seen as humane to the degree of the ussr, which I think the history speaks to how low that bar is. Nor would any actor have the same capacity and interest as the US to compel other actors to do so which again, not a high bar
It’s like saying if we burn mcscrooges mansion down and hang him from a tree then we’ll all get mansions
It's more like saying if we burn down Walmart, the local greenery stores would sell more celery to their customers.
As for the USSR, we're talking about the Cold War, post-Thaw period.
I realise that but you addressed the Cold War, I addressed the flaws in that position.
We’re also not talking about celery, kaz. We’re talking force of arms. We don’t want more sales from any actor
No, we are talking about trade and culture, the very reason for which Amerika supposedly shouldn't be balkanized.
So let’s talk trade and culture. Rolling with the Walmart analogy for culture neither America nor Walmart got to where they were because people didn’t find utility in it. If it’s not to your taste though it’s not like there’s any shortage of alternatives. Last time I checked the Bolshoi and Hermitage havnt been suffering from american patronage.
The alternative still holds up. Walmart has food that is trash, but the alternative variant is a) more expensive, and b) repressed because of lack of economies of scale, can't accumulate wealth and profit at the same rate as Walmart. If Walmart is to burn, the alternatives would be the next immmediate option.
Last time I checked, turning on the TV and looking at half-dressed harlots is cheaper than going to Bolshoi.
The public will turn to the cheapest option, so it is necessary at least for culture to turn the most preferrable option into the cheapest.
It’s hard to argue alternatives are suppressed where the market for theatre, books etc is only reaching new heights. I’m also not sure if we want people seeing high culture as their porn alternative and flogging one off to the Venus de milo. Plus I don’t know about where you are kaz but it’s pretty easy to get into an art show or amateur show for nothing and I don’t know how much more competitive you can get then free. Continuing to use the ballet as an example the line half dressed harlots and high culture is pretty blurred and certainly ballerinas have seen value in having a hand in each industry
Accelerationism isn’t about making the system worse. It’s about engaging the system into overdrive thus making it collapse.
That’s like saying adding a healthy mix of salt water and turpentine to the fuel in your engine isn’t about making your engine worse, it’s about pushing its tolerance limits until it breaks
Do I really have to explain to the nationalist server why a non-functioning nation is worse then a functional one?
There is supposed to be a better-functioning society after the revolution happens in an over-drived system. I'm not supporting it, but it's a bit more sophisticated than "lol i want no society".
@CronoSaturn I don’t think you understand etymologies
@Kazimir Malevich I’m not sure how this is any more sophisticated then the delusional thinking of those that self harm expecting if they only hit rock bottom then they’ll magically turn their life around.
The word "revolution" comes from the word "revolve" for a reason.
turning things around.
So does revolt. Does that mean this train of thought is disgusting?
@CronoSaturn well bloody revolution is gonna happen to either way man like it or not
I’m exceptionally curious as to what basis you come by that assertion
Reality
Chad "reality" vs virgin "facts"
I mean it’s safe to say the majority of people aren’t really feeling good about capitalism and the current system
Capitalism is rad dude
Poor people in a capitalist country will be WAY more poor in any sort of disgusting commie one
This tbh
Broooo wtf is this
How the fuck did this even happen
Like what the fuck
Oh, delightful.
He has a great voice.