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And that's the only time we can isolate it to since pagans supposedly resurged???
Source pls
all of this shit sounds like it happened before the "dark ages" began
aka the middle ages
which is what we are taught by schools were the dark ages
Whenever Germans became mercenaries in the Roman army if they weren't Christians before they usually became Christians after
And many successful raiders were former Roman mercenaries
Arianism was very popular in Germany prior to all of this
Paganism inly survived in the northern parts which is why the Franks would launch crusades into Saxony
But there was no diaspora of pagans that caused a decline of Christianity in the Roman Empire my guy
You should be given the retard role ngl
But yeah the Germans "at this stage" had been Christian for two centuries
They didn't all miraculously convert when they settled in Italy
What a meme
Pagan shit was restricted to the scandinavians and baltics during the "dark ages" if im correct
Was dead in Scandinavia by the 11th century basically
And similarly in the Baltics a century later
baste Teutonic Order
@CronoSaturn source
irma has an extremely high iq
For my part I don't think Arianism is Christian because it denies the essential nature of Christ.
It is basically deism with extra steps.
@CronoSaturn I want to have a rational educated debate with you sensei please don't ignore me I'll be cordial
@εïз irma εïз i wasnt snubbing you i was just having a convo with a mate and ive looked into things a little more
you raise good points and certainly its less black and white then I first imagined it to be but the decline of the roman empire saw a shrinking of christian influence before christian institutions would then gain a foothold with the institutions post roman empire
france saw that transition relatively early but were earlier overrun by pagans
other parts of europe saw differing rates there with irish christianity developing independantly of the catholic church to a significant degree before being brought back into the fold later and england dropping out before converting in a manner similar to france
my original position, that went into decline period was prolly a hot take but that rather than the hegemonic position it had under the roman empire and later in mid to late medieval period (10th century onward, say) the period of roman decline and absence (5th to 10th century) saw an inconsistant decline in the spread of christianity and certainly a less connected church
again, i dont know where you people are from or what schools your going to etc but im not aware of anyone who's blamed the church for the decline in scholarship in the west in this period
not only was I taught that Christianity was responsible for the dark ages, I have heard it many times from Atheists who think that religion is why we arent in space
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@PunishedMuskovy well as i point out the first ones hard to justify. the second one on the surface seems to make sense, religions in general have gatekept areas of study and prevented the dissemination of knowledge so retrospectively its an attractive position but id argue that disregards the context of the times and ignores the positive instances of such gatekeeping
I seriously do not know where you heard that dark ages were because of Pagans
because the dark ages
were the middle ages
our school systems must be very different then because ive never equated the dark ages to the entire medieval period
what do you label the middle ages?
essentially id say the time where Feudalism, Black Death, and Crusades were big things
before the renaissance