Message from @Shiba Inu

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2019-03-09 05:23:19 UTC  

And that's the only time we can isolate it to since pagans supposedly resurged???

2019-03-09 05:23:22 UTC  

Source pls

2019-03-09 05:23:39 UTC  

all of this shit sounds like it happened before the "dark ages" began

2019-03-09 05:23:41 UTC  

aka the middle ages

2019-03-09 05:23:50 UTC  

which is what we are taught by schools were the dark ages

2019-03-09 05:24:07 UTC  

Whenever Germans became mercenaries in the Roman army if they weren't Christians before they usually became Christians after

2019-03-09 05:24:19 UTC  

And many successful raiders were former Roman mercenaries

2019-03-09 05:24:38 UTC  

Arianism was very popular in Germany prior to all of this

2019-03-09 05:24:57 UTC  

Paganism inly survived in the northern parts which is why the Franks would launch crusades into Saxony

2019-03-09 05:25:26 UTC  

But there was no diaspora of pagans that caused a decline of Christianity in the Roman Empire my guy

2019-03-09 05:25:42 UTC  

You should be given the retard role ngl

2019-03-09 05:27:31 UTC  

But yeah the Germans "at this stage" had been Christian for two centuries

2019-03-09 05:27:40 UTC  

They didn't all miraculously convert when they settled in Italy

2019-03-09 05:27:44 UTC  

What a meme

2019-03-09 05:27:46 UTC  

Pagan shit was restricted to the scandinavians and baltics during the "dark ages" if im correct

2019-03-09 05:28:11 UTC  

Was dead in Scandinavia by the 11th century basically

2019-03-09 05:28:18 UTC  

And similarly in the Baltics a century later

2019-03-09 05:28:26 UTC  

baste Teutonic Order

2019-03-09 05:29:03 UTC  
2019-03-09 05:29:10 UTC  

irma has an extremely high iq

2019-03-09 05:29:13 UTC  
2019-03-09 05:29:43 UTC  

For my part I don't think Arianism is Christian because it denies the essential nature of Christ.

2019-03-09 05:29:49 UTC  

It is basically deism with extra steps.

2019-03-09 05:33:45 UTC  

@CronoSaturn I want to have a rational educated debate with you sensei please don't ignore me I'll be cordial

2019-03-09 06:33:29 UTC  

2019-03-09 08:17:38 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз i wasnt snubbing you i was just having a convo with a mate and ive looked into things a little more
you raise good points and certainly its less black and white then I first imagined it to be but the decline of the roman empire saw a shrinking of christian influence before christian institutions would then gain a foothold with the institutions post roman empire

2019-03-09 08:18:38 UTC  

france saw that transition relatively early but were earlier overrun by pagans

2019-03-09 08:20:45 UTC  

other parts of europe saw differing rates there with irish christianity developing independantly of the catholic church to a significant degree before being brought back into the fold later and england dropping out before converting in a manner similar to france

2019-03-09 08:26:03 UTC  

my original position, that went into decline period was prolly a hot take but that rather than the hegemonic position it had under the roman empire and later in mid to late medieval period (10th century onward, say) the period of roman decline and absence (5th to 10th century) saw an inconsistant decline in the spread of christianity and certainly a less connected church

2019-03-09 08:27:44 UTC  

again, i dont know where you people are from or what schools your going to etc but im not aware of anyone who's blamed the church for the decline in scholarship in the west in this period

2019-03-09 08:32:13 UTC  

not only was I taught that Christianity was responsible for the dark ages, I have heard it many times from Atheists who think that religion is why we arent in space

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2019-03-09 08:52:16 UTC  

@PunishedMuskovy well as i point out the first ones hard to justify. the second one on the surface seems to make sense, religions in general have gatekept areas of study and prevented the dissemination of knowledge so retrospectively its an attractive position but id argue that disregards the context of the times and ignores the positive instances of such gatekeeping

2019-03-09 08:53:43 UTC  

I seriously do not know where you heard that dark ages were because of Pagans

2019-03-09 08:54:02 UTC  

because the dark ages

2019-03-09 08:54:05 UTC  

were the middle ages

2019-03-09 08:55:13 UTC  

our school systems must be very different then because ive never equated the dark ages to the entire medieval period

2019-03-09 08:55:57 UTC  

what do you label the middle ages?

2019-03-09 08:56:26 UTC  

essentially id say the time where Feudalism, Black Death, and Crusades were big things

2019-03-09 08:56:30 UTC  

before the renaissance