Message from @neztharion

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2019-03-13 19:35:58 UTC  

Augustus the fatass from Charlie and The Chocolate Factory

2019-03-13 19:36:02 UTC  

what is a reasonable salary to you

2019-03-13 19:36:03 UTC  

Your charicature of the relationship between a CEO and his worker is very poor

2019-03-13 19:36:15 UTC  

six figures

2019-03-13 19:36:23 UTC  

depends on the size of the company

2019-03-13 19:36:41 UTC  

the pay should depend on the skill of the job

2019-03-13 19:36:47 UTC  

you are wrong

2019-03-13 19:36:55 UTC  

im very very right

2019-03-13 19:37:27 UTC  

pay is determined by many things and high salaries for business creators is necessary to incentivize entrepreneurship

2019-03-13 19:37:48 UTC  

they are paid more in part because they have assumed risk

2019-03-13 19:38:09 UTC  

often business owners earn less per hour than their employees

2019-03-13 19:38:29 UTC  

that's true for small businesses

2019-03-13 19:39:06 UTC  

and there are many instances where workers are paid fairly, and business owners receive a fair salary

2019-03-13 19:39:18 UTC  

but all too often, especially when we're talking about large corporations

2019-03-13 19:39:32 UTC  

way too much of the surplus value congregates to the top of the hierarchy

2019-03-13 19:39:41 UTC  

which is where exploitation lies

2019-03-13 19:39:59 UTC  

the labour force is not paid their fair share of the surplus value -they- generate

2019-03-13 19:42:41 UTC  

I agree that capitalism is vuknerable to corruption and exploitation. However, I do not have much sympathy for the retail worker who makes minimum wage while his company's executives make much more.

2019-03-13 19:42:53 UTC  

Nobody has lost in that scenario

2019-03-13 19:43:08 UTC  

your obsession with "justice" is foolish

2019-03-13 19:43:33 UTC  

i think the executive deserves more due to the skill it takes to do that job, but executives are usually overpaid with money that the labour force created

2019-03-13 19:43:47 UTC  

who are you to decide that

2019-03-13 19:43:54 UTC  

and who gives a fuck

2019-03-13 19:44:03 UTC  

there is inefficiency in every system

2019-03-13 19:44:06 UTC  

who is the executive to live off of money he or she didnt generate lmao

2019-03-13 19:44:20 UTC  

so you're jealous or something?

2019-03-13 19:44:25 UTC  

what?

2019-03-13 19:44:36 UTC  

why do you care if you have a good enough wage?

2019-03-13 19:44:37 UTC  

what a weird accusation

2019-03-13 19:44:55 UTC  

all too often wages simply arent good enough

2019-03-13 19:45:05 UTC  

and besides, its an injustice of exploitation

2019-03-13 19:45:22 UTC  

your idea that there is a specific amount of money each person deserves and that any receipt beyond that is injustice is ridiculous

2019-03-13 19:45:22 UTC  

the worker isn't receiving their share of the surplus value they create

2019-03-13 19:45:54 UTC  

buddy

2019-03-13 19:45:57 UTC  

exactly

2019-03-13 19:46:11 UTC  

so you can live without debt, without worrying about your next meal, rent, and so on

2019-03-13 19:46:18 UTC  

people live on the breadline

2019-03-13 19:46:31 UTC  

and beyond that, they simply shouldn't be exploited

2019-03-13 19:46:32 UTC  

Look, I can't tell you that the system works as it is because it doesn't