Message from @Augustus

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2019-03-13 19:35:25 UTC  

If you had worked in a factory or office you might understand that the vast majority of CEOs do the same kind of work as their workers in addition to their administrative and strategic roles, and make reasonable salaries.

2019-03-13 19:35:58 UTC  

Augustus the fatass from Charlie and The Chocolate Factory

2019-03-13 19:36:02 UTC  

what is a reasonable salary to you

2019-03-13 19:36:03 UTC  

Your charicature of the relationship between a CEO and his worker is very poor

2019-03-13 19:36:15 UTC  

six figures

2019-03-13 19:36:23 UTC  

depends on the size of the company

2019-03-13 19:36:41 UTC  

the pay should depend on the skill of the job

2019-03-13 19:36:47 UTC  

you are wrong

2019-03-13 19:36:55 UTC  

im very very right

2019-03-13 19:37:27 UTC  

pay is determined by many things and high salaries for business creators is necessary to incentivize entrepreneurship

2019-03-13 19:37:48 UTC  

they are paid more in part because they have assumed risk

2019-03-13 19:38:09 UTC  

often business owners earn less per hour than their employees

2019-03-13 19:38:29 UTC  

that's true for small businesses

2019-03-13 19:39:06 UTC  

and there are many instances where workers are paid fairly, and business owners receive a fair salary

2019-03-13 19:39:18 UTC  

but all too often, especially when we're talking about large corporations

2019-03-13 19:39:32 UTC  

way too much of the surplus value congregates to the top of the hierarchy

2019-03-13 19:39:41 UTC  

which is where exploitation lies

2019-03-13 19:39:59 UTC  

the labour force is not paid their fair share of the surplus value -they- generate

2019-03-13 19:42:41 UTC  

I agree that capitalism is vuknerable to corruption and exploitation. However, I do not have much sympathy for the retail worker who makes minimum wage while his company's executives make much more.

2019-03-13 19:42:53 UTC  

Nobody has lost in that scenario

2019-03-13 19:43:08 UTC  

your obsession with "justice" is foolish

2019-03-13 19:43:33 UTC  

i think the executive deserves more due to the skill it takes to do that job, but executives are usually overpaid with money that the labour force created

2019-03-13 19:43:47 UTC  

who are you to decide that

2019-03-13 19:43:54 UTC  

and who gives a fuck

2019-03-13 19:44:03 UTC  

there is inefficiency in every system

2019-03-13 19:44:06 UTC  

who is the executive to live off of money he or she didnt generate lmao

2019-03-13 19:44:20 UTC  

so you're jealous or something?

2019-03-13 19:44:25 UTC  

what?

2019-03-13 19:44:36 UTC  

why do you care if you have a good enough wage?

2019-03-13 19:44:37 UTC  

what a weird accusation

2019-03-13 19:44:55 UTC  

all too often wages simply arent good enough

2019-03-13 19:45:05 UTC  

and besides, its an injustice of exploitation

2019-03-13 19:45:22 UTC  

your idea that there is a specific amount of money each person deserves and that any receipt beyond that is injustice is ridiculous

2019-03-13 19:45:22 UTC  

the worker isn't receiving their share of the surplus value they create

2019-03-13 19:45:54 UTC  

buddy

2019-03-13 19:45:57 UTC  

exactly

2019-03-13 19:46:11 UTC  

so you can live without debt, without worrying about your next meal, rent, and so on

2019-03-13 19:46:18 UTC  

people live on the breadline

2019-03-13 19:46:31 UTC  

and beyond that, they simply shouldn't be exploited