considering homosexuality has been present in not just human beings but in different species how is it a mental illness exactly?

okay, but once we throw the evidence and data we have out of the window we're lost to baseless speculation

which is useless

not only that but its present in multiple societies like japan, Greece, rome, etc

that's a myth lol

@Orwell if cancer is present in sharks and other animals besides humans does that mean it is not a disease?

@neztharion I did not say through evidence or data out the window. Never once did I say that.

socially accepted in those societies too

greece banned faggotry

i don't understand the analogy

and it happened rarely amongst the upper class of rome

it means it is naturally occurring phenomenon

@neztharion Read my claim again. My claim was arguing against using consensus alone as your metric

*argument

w/e

Being “naturally occurring” does not mean something is good

Technically yes
But it wasn't as widespread as it was today
People over exaggerate the presence of Homosexuals in these societies

I didn't say use the evidence

arsenic and cyanide are naturally occurring as well

homosexuality was punished in healthy societies

so are diseases and parasites

only weak and decaying societies allowed it

okay, explain to me why homosexuality is a mental illness exactly

Someone who thinks men and women aren't fundamentally different has never interacted with one or both of them or they are hooked to a machine because they're too retarded to feed themselves.

how does it prevent someone from achieving their full potential in the same way that schizophrenia or autism can?

it’s sexual perversion not fit for evolutionary progress. it is unnatural

because faggots can't reproduce

^

they're worse than race-mixers

also that

is that it?

your reason for why its bad is because they cant reproduce? why even care about them then since they'll die off anyway

it is also a stimulus for depression and other disorders, even in societies that accept homosexuality

homosexuality spreads through faggots fucking children

it is not good for anyone, even homosexuals themselves

but i thought gender was not a social construct

🤔

how is this point counter to the idea that gender is not a social construct

@neztharion

Arguing against using consensus as your sole metric does not mean I think their evidence should be thrown out the window. ideology can blind someone and make them draw different conclusions off of the same data, or make them interpret it differently.

I'm calling a fallacy, not saying you shouldn't go through a scientific process.

Here is the problem with your argument:
We once believed homosexuality was a mental illness. It was once the scientific consensus. By the standard you have set, they must have been right.

if you get raped by some queer as a kid you're gonna be all messed up because of it

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