Message from @CynicInChief
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Agree CiC
Although a Pence/Carlson ticket would be fun and could have a shot.
going by Skowronek's theory of presidential power, Trump is a disjunctive president: he presides over a collapsing political coalition and tries to realign it to match the mood of the times, but fails due to a lack of institutional support
But things are still fluid
So far, agree with that Matt
Carter was the last disjunctive president we had: he tried to realign the New Deal Coalition to accept deregulation (e.g. airline deregulation), but failed because no other Democrats supported him
usually disjunctive presidents serve one term and get BTFOed when they run for reelection
the one partial exception to this was in 1856: Pierce was a disjunctive president, but because opposition to the Democrats splintered between the Republicans and Know-Nothings, the Democrats held on to the presidency for another term
I see something like that happening, with the populist and corporatist wings of the Democrats splintering and Trump winning reelection due entirely to vote splitting
I am less certain it there is an ultimate failure to reform though, especially when the opposing party is in such disarray
there are so many ways the Democrats could splinter
I already see people mad that Biden is being groomed as the nominee because he's white and male
if the identity politics/corporatists result in Trump winning reelection they will be utterly discredited and booted from the Democratic Party
Trump has been at least partially successful. The Rust Belt area I'm in has seen a good economic recovery, which was the reason a lot of blue-collar union workers voted Trump in. As long as we don't hit a major recession/depression the Rust Belt will reelect him. The wall is generally supported, but not nearly a big deal as the economy.
As long as Trump can keep blue-collar workers voting for him, we'll likely win. Biden is the most dangerous, since he can undermine Trump amongst the blue-collar union workers.
Regardless of which party aegis it is under, the next stable government in the US will have policies that swing to favoring workers and in general have higher taxes.
I think Biden is likely to win Iowa, but won't fare well outside the Rust Belt. Bernie will win New Hampshire, Kamala will win California, and it will devolve to a clusterfuck.
I'm increasingly warming up to the idea of a VAT
I favor things that raise wages, employment, etc, over gibs
VAT is standard everywhere but the U.S.
I do think that local and state sales taxes should be replaced with VATs
lol
and the income tax, as Roosh mentioned
shift the burden of taxation away from individuals and onto corporations
@phinami Trump's tried to do that, but by favoring national companies at the expense of global companies.
I like getting rid of income taxes and going to sales type taxes. A VAT isn't my first choice but can live with it. Even better the CiC style vat
or hell, changing the income tax to a flat tax would be an acceptable compromise
Hungary has a 15 percent flat tax and it boosted the economy big time
Agree CiC, now we need more of that type of thing
Just be careful about my type of vat. You don't want to make a bunch of Jokers.
I'd favor tariffs over taxes. Replace import quotas with tarriffs and use the additional income to lower personal income taxes.
Agree CiC but I'm being pragmatic and am ok with a mixture of things if we can get rid of income taxes. Income taxes unfairly target what is left of the middle class
And cut aid and foreign military adventures. A lot of countries would be fine with us cutting aid as long as it meant we got out of their hair at the same time.
Only working and middle really have income. The top brackets make their money on their ownership/stock/options
May I ask what a VAT is?
Value-Added Tax
@phinami Florida does that. A modest corporate income tax, moderate sales taxes, and no personal income taxes.
@ian, it is like a sales tax but takes place all through the supply chain, not just at retail
^ What @phinami said.
I'm not an economist, but wouldn't raising taxes on companies just cause them to jack up their prices to equalize it out