Yeah

But for the record, I would be willing to make the argument that the UK and Canada are in a better position than the US despite Trudeau or the butchering of Brexit.

The UK is at least leaving the European Union, and after the shift in government for the West Isles of New Brunswick from Rick Doucet and the liberals to... uh... that conservative lady, I have faith that Trudeau will be out next election. This fella for the conservatives looks promising.

LOL how is a flood of immigration with increased crime better?

unless the guy from Canada is going to deport the immigrants and close borders I doubt he'll be any help in the long run.

oh and on another note UK and Canada still do not have the freedom of speech so the amount of people being censored and jailed for wrong think are likely going continue unless a drastic change happens culturally and policy wise.

You know, the US isn’t perfect either; the electoral college in particular is a retarded system, writing laws in on a state-by-state basis is fucking stupid and divisive, and for all the talk you have about freedom and democracy, I get the feeling that both sides of the political spectrum would love nothing more than to genocide their opposite.

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard

>writing laws on a state by state basis is stupid and divisive

So I guess we should leave it to the federal government to write traffic laws for all 50 states

Are you British?

State governments exist for the sake of efficiency and balancing power

Wouldn’t it be fucked if the federal government had all the power over every state?

Hmmm that sounds authoritarian

HOW DIFFERENT CAN ROADS BE?!

The only thing that should affect traffic laws is the weather in any given area at any given time, with the exception of Florida, that generally means the further south you go, the less you need to worry about snow in the winter time.

And as far as federal government controlling the entirety of it’s nation, it appears to have worked for France unless they also have a new state system I’m unaware of.

Hmmm that sounds authoritarian

France is tiny compared to the US

Also that’s retarded

What if the government goes like “hmm let’s have a nationalized speed limit”

That changes based on weather

Let’s also have the fed worry about petty crime because that won’t be a logistical nightmare

Can’t wait to see the bill for a nationalized police force

STOP TYPING MORE THINGS I HAVE TO MAKE A RESPONSE TO PLEASE IVE BEEN AT IT FIVE MINUTES AND IM STILL NOT DONE

Like I said; how different can roads be that you need to deligate speed limit laws to states?

And aye; France is tiny, but Canada isn’t tiny compared to the U.S, and as far as I know, our province system is pretty much for the sake of breaking up what industries are where.

Besides, simply because France and Canada have federal law systems rather than state law systems doesn’t mean they can’t have those same free speech laws that the States have. Laws are not binary to a system. As conservatives on my facebook keep saying, the Nazis eliminated homelessness with their socialist policies, that doesn’t mean they weren’t fascist. That proves to me that laws and policies aren’t locked to any system in particular. The US doesn’t need to have states to have free speech in their constitution.

And I’m STILL NOT DONE AND I HAVE PIZZA IN FRONT OF ME

Canada is unlikely to adopt free speech laws like the United States has not because we have a federal system, but rather because most people in Canada draw a line between free speech and hate speech. I don’t, but if you’re calling for violence against anyone, that’s generally considered hat speech in Canada. It’s not something I agree with, but to say that Canada is authoritarian because we have a federal system is not the case, and to say that a federal system cannot adopt absolute free speech is absolutely incorrect. It makes even less sense to say that the three are in any way linked.

Now I want my pizza

Cold pizza

Okay but the difference between the US and Canada is that Canada has a dramatically smaller population which makes it easier to govern under one body

And you can say you have free speech on paper, but you wouldn’t really if you had such a system in the US

The population is too big and diverse and not every demographic can get influence in the federal govt

State and local governments are the best way to represent local interests

And look at how underrepresented Quebec is in the scope of Canadian policies

And I’m not necessarily talking about free speech it’s just more convenient to levy some powers to state government for the sake of efficiency

I brought up roads because it’s so unimportant when considering the rest of the fed’s agenda

Also France and Canada technically have free speech but not in the same way as the US

They just have it because they’re granted by the government

The bill of rights cannot be infringed upon

In France and the UK and Canada, you only have freedom of speech because you assume the government is benevolent enough to let you keep it, but they can (and do) take it away at any time

One of the biggest reasons the US has this level of freedom is because of how easy it is for citizens to participate in legislatures via state government

I’ll be a minute, we just got a shipment of rocks and other junk for the driveway

*another minute, I just finished eating

@nah ⛓ Tell it like it is