I don't know anything about what environments are in which state so I apologize in advance for being a dummy about it lol

I can see the air in New York

And Maine is like, all trees

No worries at all. If you dont live around here it isn't surprising

I dont know much about eastern coast

I've been to Seattle so my impression of Washington is: mountains and ocean

I'm preeetttyyy sure it's at least half desert as well

But people dont realize it with the pacific northwest. I mean. It's high desert, so it isnt completely barren, at least

it's that weird desert with those funky shrubs and stuff aint it

Yeah

It's generally a little colder than normal deserts. Not cold by any means though. And tooons of sagebrush

And if you dig in the ground you'll find seashells

Sounds similar to southern BC. dry and hot but also cold, lots of plants

British Columbia?

Yeah

Oh cool, I didn't know they had the high desert all the way up there too. That's nice to know. I love the desert

I see tons of animals everytime I'm there... Which is at least twice a month.

yeah the city of Kamloops is right in the middle of that hight desert. it's cool to see if you're not use to it

Nice :P I was born in Bend here in Oregon. Which is in the High Desert. I wish I still lived there. The Willamette Valley is miserable tbh

You know what's miserable? Central Alberta. I hate it there

I havent been to Canada yet. I would like to. But not for the cities

Isn't there any hiking there or something?

it's that kind of prarie flat where it's got just enough foothill in it that you can't see very far but you can't see anything over buildings as it's too flat.

it makes me claustrophobic

Oof

If you like hiking there's a lot of that in BC. Up in the Rockies!

@Farunel plenty of nature here

Can't say theres much for flatness here. But it's still miserable. I5 corridor in general from Portland to Eugene is... yuck.

The people don't help.

Which is funny, considering I'm liberal. Most everyone here is liberal. But I like eastern oregon people more

People in Hawaii are nice.

@Blaundee Where you at Blaundee?

Toronto

I heard that, actually. I'd like to visit Hawaii at some point. My worry is avoiding the crowds though. I dont do well in crowds

but as @April said, plenty of nature in the west coast

Well @Farunel if you want to avoid the crowds then come to the big Island. It's way less touristy and the locals are really nice

The best cities to go to are Kona or Hilo

I'll definitely research it. I'd mostly be there for hiking in any case, dont care about the helicopter rides and stuff as much.

They're cool. But too much socializing

Repzion went to Hilo a few years back

Oh man the big Island is awesome for hikes and such. I actually did a trail ride on a 10,000 acre cattle ranch there