Also

Violence as a training method *is a part of socialization*

Quite literally.

no but I've not seen dogs suddenly be anti social because they get beat to the contrary I've seen them beaten for anti social behavior lmao such as barking nipping or growling at people

In every sense of the word socialization.

Well just because you've not seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Moreover, I have seen dogs go from neutral to aggro because their owner hits them so I don't know what you're gonna do with that information.

UwU

Also it's proven that dogs respond better to reward-based discipline.

I suppose so I just am used to what I've been grown up around I don't claim it's the best either I just know that it works.

If we create the association in the dogs head that "Oh if I don't fuck up, then my owner is gonna give me a treat." Then the dog is actively looking for ways to get in our good books.

Negative punishment behavioural techniques often just create fear reactions in dogs.

And it might just outright encourage them to avoid us entirely because they associate us with pain.

see this conversation pleases me

Like... fear-biting is a thing dogs do.

what are love bites I don't know what those are

A dog *will* bite you if it's spooked.

my fucking cat will bite me if I lov on him too much

Especially if you spook it.

Yeah I've noticed the pups do nip a bit, but they never do it too hard and it's usually when they play-wrestle.

UwU

So I've never punished them for it.

Ferrets do it too

yeah true

It's a lick-lick- and then a chomp

Mine used to do it but has stopped for some reason

OH

MY FERRET

?

2 weeks on melatonin about now

They grow out of it @Farunel

He's gaining muscle

Not all ferrets

I mean dogs

Ohhh lol

I was gonna say ferrets are a pain sometims

Dogs grow out of play-biting when they grow out of play-wrestling.

I think mine it was a stress issue though

*Ferrets never grow out of that*

If your ferret stops playing it's sick even if it doesn't seem it yet

Another thing