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like the secret gospel of mark, gospel of mary, gospel of judas, and the most famous one, the gospel of thomas
btw saint mark was the one whom founded the coptic church prior to catholic influences after pope peter I of alexandria's death
the copts were originally gnostics
but were taken over by catholic influences and almost all gnostics were wiped out
Jesus as Gnostic saviour
Jesus is identified by some Gnostics as an embodiment of the supreme being who became incarnate to bring gnōsis to the earth,[62][53] while others adamantly denied that the supreme being came in the flesh, claiming Jesus to be merely a human who attained divinity through gnosis and taught his disciples to do the same.[citation needed] Among the Mandaeans, Jesus was considered a mšiha kdaba or "false messiah" who perverted the teachings entrusted to him by John the Baptist.[63] Still other traditions identify Mani and Seth – third son of Adam and Eve – as salvific figures.
Development
Three periods can be discerned in the development of Gnosticism:[64]
Late first century and early second century: development of Gnostic ideas, contemporaneous with the writing of the New Testament;
mid-second century to early third century: high point of the classical Gnostic teachers and their systems, "who claimed that their systems represented the inner truth revealed by Jesus";[64]
end of second century to fourth century: reaction by the proto-orthodox church and condemnation as heresy, and subsequent decline.
During the first period, three types of tradition developed:[64]
Genesis was reinterpreted in Jewish milieus, viewing Jahweh as a jealous God who enslaved people; freedom was to be obtained from this jealous God;
A wisdom tradition developed, in which Jesus' sayings were interpreted as pointers to an esoteric wisdom, in which the soul could be divinized through identification with wisdom.[64][note 21] Some of Jesus' sayings may have been incorporated into the gospels to put a limit on this development. The conflicts described in 1 Corinthians may have been inspired by a clash between this wisdom tradition and Paul's gospel of crucifixion and arising;[64]
A mythical story developed about the descent of a heavenly creature to reveal the Divine world as the true home of human beings.[64] Jewish Christianity saw the Messiah, or Christ, as "an eternal aspect of God's hidden nature, his "spirit" and "truth", who revealed himself throughout sacred history".[26]
Historical Jesus
See also: Jesus in comparative mythology and Christ myth theory
The Gnostic movements may contain information about the historical Jesus, since some texts preserve sayings which show similarities with canonical sayings.[75] Especially the Gospel of Thomas has a significant amount of parallel sayings.[75] Yet, a striking difference is that the canonical sayings center on the coming endtime, while the Thomas-sayings center on a kingdom of heaven that is already here, and not a future event.[76] According to Koester, this is because the Thomas-sayings are older, implying that in the earliest forms of Christianity Jesus was regarded as a wisdom-teacher.[76] An alternative hypothesis states that the Thomas authors wrote in the second century, changing existing sayings and eliminating the apocalyptic concerns.[76] According to April DeConick, such a change occurred when the endtime did not come, and the Thomasine tradition turned toward a "new theology of mysticism" and a "theological commitment to a fully-present kingdom of heaven here and now, where their church had attained Adam and Eve's divine status before the Fall."[76]
Paul and Gnosticism
Tertullian calls Paul "the apostle of the heretics",[78] because Paul's writings were attractive to gnostics, and interpreted in a gnostic way, while Jewish Christians found him to stray from the Jewish roots of Christianity.[79] Paul wrote to the Corinthian church members as "having knowledge" (Greek: τον εχοντα γνωσιν, ton echonta gnosin).[80] James Dunn claims that in some cases, Paul affirmed views that were closer to gnosticism than to proto-orthodox Christianity.[81]
According to Clement of Alexandria, the disciples of Valentinus said that Valentinus was a student of a certain Theudas, who was a student of Paul,[81] and Elaine Pagels notes that Paul's epistles were interpreted by Valentinus in a gnostic way, and Paul could be considered a proto-gnostic as well as a proto-Catholic.[61] Many Nag Hammadi texts, including, for example, the Prayer of Paul and the Coptic Apocalypse of Paul, consider Paul to be "the great apostle".[81] The fact that he claimed to have received his gospel directly by revelation from God appealed to the gnostics, who claimed gnosis from the risen Christ.[82] The Naasenes, Cainites, and Valentinians referred to Paul's epistles.[83] Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy have expanded upon this idea of Paul as a gnostic teacher;[84] although their premise that Jesus was invented by early Christians based on an alleged Greco-Roman mystery cult has been dismissed by scholars.[85][note 22] However, his revelation was different from the gnostic revelations.[86]
Have you read the aforementioned books
yes, i have
if you wanna redpill anyone on the catholics reading the remaining apocryphal books is a good start
considering they were books of the bible that were thrown out by constantine and the vatican
Do you have a pdf?
shit i think its on my other computer
I'll take note of those books and search them up later then
Much thanks
doe
yeah gnosticism represented a threat to the early church
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lucifer
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dafuq?
just a wish
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What would you suggest i start with
Anything in particular i mean
start with some weed then parachute the cocaine
@Navinoo i suggest gospel of thomas first
Ight
I swear to Allah I will find Double Negative
He really make you that butt hurt