You are backtracking on claims you made like 5 seconds ago lmao

And the ultimatum was after that @Mankn II

Theres our original map

Making a map doesn't mean you occupy it

look at the date

We claimed it first, and had a military presence in the area

I can make a map showing portugal is part of Britain does that mean it is @Mankn II

Spain made a map in the 1600s claiming parts of Japan, doesn't mean they had any means to establish control over Japan

and you as great allies backstabbed us and sent us an ultimatum

Jesus the level of mind gymnastics here is amazing

typical Anglos

Ngl "effective occupation" by any stretch of the imagination is a stronger claim than "historical discovery and recent exploration"

How many portugese people were living there?

Y'all are faggots

Not even that great mental gymnastics required

Claims are worthless

The British claimed effective occupation

they didnt have it

If you can’t enforce them

Point is we could

@Mankn II no, we claimed the land based off of effective occupation

we had military forces in the area

which were forced to retreat

I.e. occupation achieved

because our own allies sent us an ultimatum

@Mankn II how many troops? How many colonists?

How many troops did you have

all I see so far is claims

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campanhas_de_Conquista_e_Pacifica%C3%A7%C3%A3o

translate it if you want

CLAIMS BASED OFF OF REALITIES ON THE GROUND

I don't see a number nor mention of Zimbabwe or rhodesia @Mankn II

Im yet to see your claims and mentions

we got there first

we were at the beginning of the colonizing process

"effective occupation" means they were occupying it on the ground

and you sent an ultimatum

THEY CLAIMED EFFECTIVE OCCUPATION

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Portuguese_Treaty_of_1891#Origins_of_the_Anglo-Portuguese_conflict

They didnt have it