some children don't learn the stove is hot until they touch it

See, that's one of those where the answer to that "Can you eat honor?" question is a *resounding* yes.

Give 'em enough rope to hang themselves with.

Doesn't mean you *want* them to, necessarily.. just that they're the one's given the choice.

consequences will never be the same

Gym thots

She's fucking dead dude

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-fuck-wtf-blink182-gif-4982401

with a little luck

@Lucienne d'Anwyl Also, it was interesting your rebuttal about mental illnesses there. Truth is that almost all - and, frankly all that I am able to think of - homosexual folks who have even a shred of self awareness, state something like thus.

mmm well

an attraction to the same sex you know

is some form of being crippled

*nods*

i mean if you interpret your atrraction to another person being based on chemical signals in your brain

then gay people just have the wrong signals

What needs to be more corrected is the acceptance of maladies rather than reclassification of aberrant behaviors.

The gender dysphoria thing *really* bothers me on a fundamental level.. even moreso than the homosexual thing.

well homosexuality you might bring into conflict your innate breeding desires with your love life

We'll all just devolve into a primordial ooze pile of endless orgy.

but usually it isnt harmful

gender dysphoria is a huge factor in suicide

As well as a whole buncha unforeseen consequences beyond that.

chicken or egg argument

Though, for homosexuality, it's got some nasty ramifications for both the individual and society at large over a wide enough span of time.

eh

the homosexuality itself isnt the problem

can be depressive and suicidal people experiment with gender dysphoria as a means to cope, inevitably disappointed, go through with the suicide, not to say that is the only way it goes. Seems like more FtMs have issues than MtFs, finally see the shitstorm that is a man's world.

the problem is people using the gay rights movement

as a way to fight against the stigma of their fetishes

the gay rights movement shouldnt be a degenerate fetish promotion movement

but it is

That's certainly one element of concern, yes.

mmm, crazy how it is that way

well most out and out gays are sexually promiscuous af

so thats prolly the biggest contributor

That's the only way they can recruit aside from touching boys, it's like advertisement

which is why the most degenerate fetishes

like furry