in my university

Do I smell a wehraboo?

right across from the Dean's office

"Who cares that they attacked American ships to attempt a war! "

Just do it under proper context I guess. Don't lie is all I ask

Blizzard doesn't work for China, and the US doesn't work for Israel.

@Ethreen42 that they did

@Ethreen42 the CIA provided that information

you dolt

remove the CIA, remove the FBI, remove the NSA

US foreign policy does favor Israel by a large margin. Really what people who criticize Israel want is for US foreign policy to favor America instead

No no no, what you must know about the USS Liberty incident is that it was intentional

Don't even try to think otherwise

Don't even try

@UnScottable it isn't an Israel-specific issue at all

at least those in the usa with those criticisms

it's entirely a general foreign policy issue

yes it is. AIPAC is one of the largest political lobbys in american politics

and?

“So would you make a policy that’s pro American but might be at the detriment of Israel?”

their money influences our foreign policy

“Guys I just love Israel”

in what way?

see, now we're going in circles

in lots of ways.

the war in iraq being a prime example

no

Iraq had little to do with Israel

Iraq didn't even threaten Israel by any significant margin

Well you see

Iraq was entirely political moves and oil

When something happens in a region you can't even point out on a map

You gotta blame Israel

stop pinning every issue in the ME on Israel

it's childish

You can even go conspiratard deluxe and implicate other topical subjects like the Rotschilds

Or muh International Jewish Conspiracy

No one is pinning EVERY issue on Israel. But to downplay their political and financial influence on America is senseless.

http://www.ussliberty.org/rusk.htm

> "We also lost 34 American lives when, on June 8, the fourth day of the war, the U.S. communications ship Liberty came under air and naval attack. We were meeting with President Johnson in the White House situation room, considering the implications had the Soviets or Egyptians attacked the ship, when we received word from Tel Aviv that Israeli forces were responsible. That didn't please us, although an Israeli attack on Liberty was far easier to deal with. But I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. Their sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger-happy local commander. Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous."

- Dean Rusk, Secretory of State 1967

big think

and?