Message from @Toto

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2019-10-22 10:04:31 UTC  

and who knows, women might prove us wrong and show us they aren't morally retarded. So, we'll see.

2019-10-22 10:05:07 UTC  

Nature doesn't know or care for equality, and our nature hasn't changed, only our level of wealth and progress has

2019-10-22 10:06:13 UTC  

Men are superior to women in every regard except the biological function of getting pregnant, and the ability to empathize

2019-10-22 10:06:32 UTC  

Men empathize about as much or more than women.

2019-10-22 10:06:50 UTC  

Also, I never said reverse nature, it can be contingent on social pressures, keeping women in line.

2019-10-22 10:06:58 UTC  

I'm talking about the ability, not the will to do so

2019-10-22 10:07:03 UTC  

Men have less empathy by nature

2019-10-22 10:07:08 UTC  

Disagree.

2019-10-22 10:07:16 UTC  

It's a biological fact

2019-10-22 10:07:17 UTC  

Men have about as much or more so.

2019-10-22 10:07:35 UTC  

No, it's a biological fact women are less inclined to care about fairness.

2019-10-22 10:07:46 UTC  

That's a result of them being more empathetic

2019-10-22 10:07:47 UTC  

At least if we look at womens moral development.

2019-10-22 10:08:03 UTC  

No, it's a result of them being taken care of and thus not having to worry about it.

2019-10-22 10:08:11 UTC  

Women don't care about morals, they care about protection

2019-10-22 10:08:13 UTC  

The study explictly stated that more or less.

2019-10-22 10:08:19 UTC  

Morals are a male concept

2019-10-22 10:08:37 UTC  

Right so women don't care about morals but then you say they're more empathetic.

2019-10-22 10:08:42 UTC  

You're backtracking.

2019-10-22 10:08:52 UTC  

Are you equating being moral to being empathetic?

2019-10-22 10:08:52 UTC  

I don't see what you mean my dude.

2019-10-22 10:09:04 UTC  

Absolutely. You require morality to have empathy.

2019-10-22 10:09:08 UTC  

No you don't

2019-10-22 10:09:12 UTC  

Yes you do.

2019-10-22 10:09:18 UTC  

Not at all

2019-10-22 10:09:28 UTC  

If you have no morals, why would you care about empathy?

2019-10-22 10:09:42 UTC  

Empathy is a biological function, it's a brain function

2019-10-22 10:09:42 UTC  

Also, let's look at child abuse statistics, the majority of child abusers are female.

2019-10-22 10:09:51 UTC  

Nature does not care for morals

2019-10-22 10:09:54 UTC  

But yet we're too believe women are more empathetic.

2019-10-22 10:10:04 UTC  

I'm aware of nature not caring about morals.

2019-10-22 10:10:11 UTC  

Morals are a result of higher awareness, not of basic programming

2019-10-22 10:10:13 UTC  

Why are you bringing that up, lol.

2019-10-22 10:10:29 UTC  

Empathy is basic, morals are advanced

2019-10-22 10:10:39 UTC  

Yes, and the only creatures that have actual empathy more or less are humans.

2019-10-22 10:10:44 UTC  

Wrong again

2019-10-22 10:11:07 UTC  

Morals being present is absolutely required to have a sense of empathy or sympathy.

2019-10-22 10:11:11 UTC  

Wrong

2019-10-22 10:11:16 UTC  

Morals are a philosophical concept

2019-10-22 10:11:33 UTC  

You don't need to have higher modes of thinking to be able to empathize

2019-10-22 10:11:41 UTC  

Yes you do.