I'm aware of nature not caring about morals.

Morals are a result of higher awareness, not of basic programming

Why are you bringing that up, lol.

Empathy is basic, morals are advanced

Yes, and the only creatures that have actual empathy more or less are humans.

Wrong again

Morals being present is absolutely required to have a sense of empathy or sympathy.

Wrong

Morals are a philosophical concept

You don't need to have higher modes of thinking to be able to empathize

Yes you do.

No you don't

Yes you do.

Prove it

Morals are a philosophical concept as well as a state of being, you can't give empathy to someone without thinking about it first, we're socialized to have empathy.

if you're socialized to not have empathy, you're a sociopath.

Sociopaths have very weak morals.

Have you studied biology or psychology?

To an extent yes, but not thoroughly.

What is "to an extent"?

Just what I told you.

So nothing of significance then, ok

I've done some research into it but I'm not a master.

So you're not an authority on empathy then

No not really.

So now you're making an appeal to authority?

Ok, then why do you think you can tell me the functionality of empathy and morality, if you haven't studied the required fields?

Because I have the ability to think critically.

Sounds like bullshit

Empathy is not something you can "critically think about"

Also, this is very very derailed, the purpose of this conversation was to talk about men having more empathy.

You either study empathy or you don't understand it

or at the very least as much.

Okay let me put the burden of proof on you.

I don't need to prove anything, I didn't make a positive claim

Where is your proof that men don't empathize as much

So you don't want to prove anything, and want me to do all the heavy lifting? That doesn't seem fair.

I have links to research for that
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1963313/

let's take this to another channel btw

this isn't the right channel for this

I just noticed