Message from @Lucienne d'Anwyl

Discord ID: 635900319892635688


2019-10-21 17:59:21 UTC  

electron energy levels and orbits are very important concepts

2019-10-21 17:59:26 UTC  

and you can't measure an electron with a photon without effecting the measurement

2019-10-21 17:59:30 UTC  

It causes misconceptions

2019-10-21 17:59:30 UTC  

its just how waves work dude

2019-10-21 17:59:31 UTC  

it's pretty simple

2019-10-21 17:59:56 UTC  

It is what it is, so what if ppl use imperfect means to define it as long as they continue to figure better ways to predict expected output for a given input

2019-10-21 18:00:03 UTC  

would you prefer to use the old and outdated atom models lol

2019-10-21 18:00:14 UTC  

if we find some way to measure properties of a wave-packet using something that doesn't effect the measurement, that would be the holy grail of particle physics and quantum mechanics

2019-10-21 18:00:16 UTC  

It causes people to think that the electron is only in orbit some of the time and might show up at any point in its orbit at any time, ina general area

2019-10-21 18:00:27 UTC  

they are waves tho are they not?

2019-10-21 18:00:29 UTC  

EC weewoo

2019-10-21 18:00:29 UTC  

In reality, its always there

2019-10-21 18:00:33 UTC  

or whatever the fuck

2019-10-21 18:00:38 UTC  

not some orbiting sphere

2019-10-21 18:00:42 UTC  

in reality it is somewhere

2019-10-21 18:00:43 UTC  

always

2019-10-21 18:00:44 UTC  

they are "wave-packets"

2019-10-21 18:00:46 UTC  

they are everywhere on the orbit at all times

2019-10-21 18:00:48 UTC  

but it could be in multiple regions

2019-10-21 18:00:50 UTC  

because you know

2019-10-21 18:00:54 UTC  

thats how it works

2019-10-21 18:00:57 UTC  

No they are singular entities

2019-10-21 18:00:58 UTC  

it isnt a regular orbit

2019-10-21 18:01:03 UTC  

electrons are in a superposition around the nuclei

2019-10-21 18:01:03 UTC  

and they can teleport

2019-10-21 18:01:06 UTC  

soooo

2019-10-21 18:01:18 UTC  

I'm out, i want breakfast and just realized it's fucking 1pm already

2019-10-21 18:01:21 UTC  

Nothing exists in more than one place at a time, or there would be more than one of it

2019-10-21 18:01:36 UTC  

They're superpositioned

2019-10-21 18:01:36 UTC  

but you dont know where it is

2019-10-21 18:01:39 UTC  

is the point

2019-10-21 18:01:40 UTC  

lel

2019-10-21 18:01:58 UTC  

Failing to know what's actually going on and defaulting to magical explanations is counterproductive

2019-10-21 18:01:58 UTC  

I'm reminded of the theory that there's really only one electron in existence and it just intersects with our dimension everywhere at once.

2019-10-21 18:02:05 UTC  

it's not necessarily that it exists in more than one place at a time, it's that it could be in all places at any given time

2019-10-21 18:02:12 UTC  

lol

2019-10-21 18:02:17 UTC  

How can it do that?

2019-10-21 18:02:19 UTC  

magical?

2019-10-21 18:02:22 UTC  

its observably true

2019-10-21 18:02:24 UTC  

because quantum mechanics is weird lol