Message from @ManAnimal

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2019-10-29 17:03:50 UTC  

and you're just calling them aptitudes

2019-10-29 17:03:53 UTC  

if you have an apptitude for math or for athletics.....

2019-10-29 17:04:02 UTC  

these are genetic

2019-10-29 17:04:26 UTC  

an erection does however meet the definition of behaviour

2019-10-29 17:04:34 UTC  

but that just increases the likelihood you will gravitate towards these things and ADOPT certain behaviours that you learn

2019-10-29 17:04:36 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633966934622208031/638785268266041357/unknown.png

2019-10-29 17:04:38 UTC  

MA, if you don't believe in innate behavior, then why would you ever disagree with the postmodernist IntFems who say that human beings are deterministic programmable blank slates? <:Pepe_of_akkad:462279833511264257>

2019-10-29 17:04:57 UTC  

those are completely unrelated

2019-10-29 17:05:02 UTC  

false equivolency

2019-10-29 17:05:22 UTC  

not really

2019-10-29 17:05:28 UTC  

in fact, IF behaviour was GENETIC, THEN this WOULD support determinism

2019-10-29 17:05:32 UTC  

I think we can draw a line between genetic behaviours that manifest themselves without conscious effort, and learned behaviours which require input and deliberation

2019-10-29 17:05:38 UTC  

it's in fact the exact opposite

2019-10-29 17:05:43 UTC  

I don't think *all* behaviour is genetic

2019-10-29 17:05:47 UTC  

I'd say some is

2019-10-29 17:05:51 UTC  

Except I never claimed all behavior was innate

2019-10-29 17:05:54 UTC  

Fight or flight

2019-10-29 17:06:15 UTC  

it's only deterministic if it fits whatever toxic narrative toilet paper degrees spit out for relevancy...

2019-10-29 17:06:16 UTC  

I think the learned behaviour would be built on top of how we behave naturally

2019-10-29 17:06:22 UTC  

the problem is that you cannot FALSIFY behaviour being genetic rather than learned

2019-10-29 17:06:28 UTC  

this is why it is bad science

2019-10-29 17:06:28 UTC  

If anything, just the opposite. That sexual preferences are the byproduct of adaptation to environment

2019-10-29 17:06:53 UTC  

I mean if your afraid something’s gonna kill ya I would say fight or flight is genetic

2019-10-29 17:07:01 UTC  

you can just as easily learn behaviour that 'fits your apptitude' as you can inherit those behaviours

2019-10-29 17:07:15 UTC  

If mother nature said we needed sperm, egg, and a third thing to copulate, we'd have three genders instead of two, since that's what the environment would dictate and the evolution of our genes would follow that.

2019-10-29 17:07:22 UTC  

I'm sorry I'm just failing to see how aptitude isn't just a fancy word for defining genetic behaviours here

2019-10-29 17:07:34 UTC  

and because the same behaviour does NOT result from the same stimulus, it is highly subjective

2019-10-29 17:07:56 UTC  

But it leads to the same result lol

2019-10-29 17:08:06 UTC  

You get X and Y and create kid

2019-10-29 17:08:17 UTC  

You see bad thing and you do X or Y action

2019-10-29 17:08:20 UTC  

To run or fight

2019-10-29 17:08:30 UTC  

Is smiling innate or learned

2019-10-29 17:08:41 UTC  

Smiling is innate

2019-10-29 17:08:42 UTC  

genetics does not encapsulate behaviour; instinct, yes. but NOT behaviour

2019-10-29 17:08:47 UTC  

Given that you can trigger smiling via electrodes, I'd say it's innate

2019-10-29 17:08:49 UTC  

Children blind from birth smile

2019-10-29 17:08:53 UTC  

they've never seen one

2019-10-29 17:08:55 UTC  

but still do it

2019-10-29 17:09:01 UTC  

That’s what I thought

2019-10-29 17:09:14 UTC  

Yes nothing encapsulates behavior entirely

2019-10-29 17:09:16 UTC  

Semantics. You're basically saying behavior is what happens when instinct meets stimulus.