Message from @Doomed world

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2019-09-15 23:32:29 UTC  

I don’t think we are benefiting

2019-09-15 23:33:07 UTC  

Also Israel is the biggest lobby of the US but I’m not saying Jews control everything, I think it’s just globalist

2019-09-15 23:33:09 UTC  

We've also got the three seas initiative

2019-09-15 23:33:19 UTC  

Ensuring an actor like Saddam goes bye-bye is an exorbitant benefit, minimizing the threat of national socialists seizing control of logistical infrastructure required for oil trade in pursuit of creating artificial supply shortages to benefit their multi-national cartels required to sustain their totalitarian allies, for example.

2019-09-15 23:33:28 UTC  

American influence in Europe

2019-09-15 23:34:27 UTC  

Americans, as well the British, greatly benefit from the elimination of such threats, @Snake, and that's not an international finance threat, that's a threat to the quality of our lives and the advancement of human civilization around the globe.

2019-09-15 23:35:03 UTC  

"that's a threat to the quality of our lives and the advancement of human civilization around the globe."

2019-09-15 23:35:10 UTC  

Yet you support the Saudis

2019-09-15 23:35:16 UTC  

Fair enough, @Jeremy but we didn’t just get saddam to stop, we actually took him down and destabilized the area, same with Libya, Syria, Yemen and Afghanistan

2019-09-15 23:35:25 UTC  

Creating chaos in these regions

2019-09-15 23:35:35 UTC  

Have gotten into a spat with Iran which is now arming its nuclear program

2019-09-15 23:35:59 UTC  

The Saudi-Yemeni conflict is far more nuanced than what you're alluding.

2019-09-15 23:36:00 UTC  

Support Israeli annexation and expansion..

2019-09-15 23:36:04 UTC  

We shouldn’t support Saudi Arabia and Israel

2019-09-15 23:36:06 UTC  

At all

2019-09-15 23:36:24 UTC  

Like I said, Israel has one of the biggest lobbies in the USA

2019-09-15 23:36:25 UTC  

As for Syria and Afghanistan, though at differing periods of history, are underpinned by identical threats.

2019-09-15 23:36:34 UTC  

Lobbying lets people take advantage of us

2019-09-15 23:36:46 UTC  

Our support of the rebels in Afghanistan was in seeking to oust the Communists from Kabul.

2019-09-15 23:36:48 UTC  

We can also look at Russia as well

2019-09-15 23:36:50 UTC  

Israel also the only dmocracy in the middle east

2019-09-15 23:37:02 UTC  

Well sure

2019-09-15 23:37:04 UTC  

Their response is arguably due to NATO expansion Eastward, something the US said would never happen.

2019-09-15 23:37:07 UTC  

Yet here we are.

2019-09-15 23:37:14 UTC  

So what, they do a lot to fuck us over

2019-09-15 23:37:37 UTC  

No Russia would have done that on its own actually @Weez

2019-09-15 23:37:38 UTC  

As for Syria, you've got a genocidal Ba'athist in power.

2019-09-15 23:37:45 UTC  

You've failed to uphold your agreements on multiple occasions

2019-09-15 23:37:57 UTC  

First with the NATO expansion and then with the Ukraine defence agreement

2019-09-15 23:38:04 UTC  

I needn't say any more toward our policy ambitions, especially with Russia supplying them with chemical bombs.

2019-09-15 23:38:15 UTC  

"you've got a genocidal Ba'athist in power"

2019-09-15 23:38:25 UTC  

Genocide hasn't stopped the US supporting countries in the past.

2019-09-15 23:38:47 UTC  

Russia has serious geographic and demographic problems it’s trying to fix

2019-09-15 23:38:50 UTC  

Due to ideological splits, sure.

2019-09-15 23:38:56 UTC  

So "genocide" isn't that much of a concern to the US when it suits them.

2019-09-15 23:39:10 UTC  

I fully support the 65-66 Indonesian purge of Communists from their country.

2019-09-15 23:39:19 UTC  

We supported that.

2019-09-15 23:39:26 UTC  

And, I'm all for more of it.

2019-09-15 23:39:32 UTC  

As is my country.

2019-09-15 23:39:37 UTC  

And, I'm not afraid to admit that.

2019-09-15 23:39:40 UTC  

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