Message from @James Rimor

Discord ID: 625098436861231115


2019-09-21 22:34:06 UTC  

Why try when we know it'll fail?

2019-09-21 22:34:21 UTC  

It's freedom from Government for a while

2019-09-21 22:34:23 UTC  

We'll just end up in anarchy and bloodshed

2019-09-21 22:34:40 UTC  

The cost is not worth the risk

2019-09-21 22:34:57 UTC  

We could just have a system in which we have a minarchist state which brings back a temporary Government every few years

2019-09-21 22:35:10 UTC  

Also the collateral damage would be huge

2019-09-21 22:35:18 UTC  

At least we would be free

2019-09-21 22:35:28 UTC  

Freedom is an illusion

2019-09-21 22:35:32 UTC  

No it isn't

2019-09-21 22:35:54 UTC  

Free Will is, But we can be free from Government

2019-09-21 22:35:54 UTC  

Give me an example of how you're free currently?

2019-09-21 22:36:11 UTC  

I am using my freedom to type to you

2019-09-21 22:36:20 UTC  

If i wasn't free i couldn't

2019-09-21 22:36:55 UTC  

We have partial freedom due to the illusion of free will

2019-09-21 22:37:09 UTC  

The government aims to restrict that partial free will even more

2019-09-21 22:37:14 UTC  

You're still not free as you're relying on multiple corporations to message me

2019-09-21 22:37:18 UTC  

the ability to act freely is free will, and is tied to your freedom

2019-09-21 22:37:33 UTC  

Your body does not allow free will @Hopix

2019-09-21 22:37:42 UTC  

Then freedom is pointless in general

2019-09-21 22:37:59 UTC  

Think about, Can you choose for example to never be angry? Or will your body force you to?

2019-09-21 22:38:01 UTC  

Freedom is an illusion, a warm blanket to make you think you're safe

2019-09-21 22:38:20 UTC  

Free Will is an illusion

2019-09-21 22:38:27 UTC  

It only grants partial freedom

2019-09-21 22:38:32 UTC  

Safe from the catholic priest with his bottle of lube

2019-09-21 22:38:34 UTC  

Then so is freedom in general

2019-09-21 22:38:45 UTC  

We can be Free from Governments

2019-09-21 22:38:51 UTC  

No we can't

2019-09-21 22:38:54 UTC  

Which will allow us to be more free

2019-09-21 22:39:00 UTC  

Not completely free

2019-09-21 22:39:04 UTC  

But freer

2019-09-21 22:39:14 UTC  

Exactly not completely free

2019-09-21 22:39:19 UTC  

So you're never free

2019-09-21 22:39:31 UTC  

Thus freedom is an illusion

2019-09-21 22:39:33 UTC  

We can never be completely free

2019-09-21 22:39:56 UTC  

Due to the illusion of Free will like i said before but we can be free from governments

2019-09-21 22:40:12 UTC  

One is achievable the other isn't

2019-09-21 22:40:13 UTC  

free will exists in the same way freedom does

2019-09-21 22:40:21 UTC  

So we should still seek to achieve one

2019-09-21 22:40:21 UTC  

Ahahah you're in a bit of a loop there lizard

2019-09-21 22:40:44 UTC  

You said we can be free of government when you said we can't

2019-09-21 22:41:03 UTC  

We can never be completely free however this shouldn't stop us from trying to increase our freedom through reductions in Government