Message from @Weez

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2019-09-17 18:40:45 UTC  

They have a near monopoly on rare earth metals.

2019-09-17 18:41:01 UTC  

Good luck producing all those fancy phones when you can't buy the raw resources for them.

2019-09-17 18:41:11 UTC  

You can't pose a threat to the U.S if you're indirectly dependant on the U.S customer base

2019-09-17 18:41:31 UTC  

Something which is rapidly changing

2019-09-17 18:41:49 UTC  

A. The American customer base dependency and B. The export focus.

2019-09-17 18:42:02 UTC  

No it isn't. As the recent trade war has clearly shown where the Chinese yuan is dropping in value much faster than the U.S dollar is.

2019-09-17 18:42:08 UTC  

China is moving away from mass-exports for the very reason you said.

2019-09-17 18:42:19 UTC  

If China was "overtaking" the U.S economy, it would've been the other way around.

2019-09-17 18:42:36 UTC  

No, not at all.

2019-09-17 18:42:43 UTC  

They're moving away for the very reason you mentioned earlier.

2019-09-17 18:42:53 UTC  

They want stability, first and foremost.

2019-09-17 18:43:15 UTC  

"Joseph Stiglitz, the Nobel laureate in economics (who was a professor at Stanford during my Stanford years) says in his new article "World has much to learn from China's new economic model" that China is employing a "new economic model" to move away from export-led growth that other East Asian countries have pursued. China recognizes that things that worked in other countries may not be suitable to China's unique situation. "

2019-09-17 18:43:26 UTC  

"They're moving away". I don't care. They haven't moved away yet. Their economy is still grossly dependant on cheap mass exports. Whatever cute plans the chinese might have will not help them TODAY.

2019-09-17 18:43:53 UTC  

They started this in around 2011

2019-09-17 18:44:12 UTC  

And your argument "we could cripple China by doing X", I don't care about that

2019-09-17 18:44:14 UTC  

Yeah and their projects necessary to make this economic shift will take decades.

2019-09-17 18:44:18 UTC  

Because it's not realistic.

2019-09-17 18:44:23 UTC  

Something that won't happen.

2019-09-17 18:44:35 UTC  

You'll NEVER see an embargo against China.

2019-09-17 18:44:39 UTC  

Or something of that nature.

2019-09-17 18:44:47 UTC  

It will happen if China were to actually pose a threat to the U.S. Which they're not.

2019-09-17 18:44:47 UTC  

Like I said earlier, you're talking about fantasy.

2019-09-17 18:45:23 UTC  

You severely underestimate China.

2019-09-17 18:45:54 UTC  

No I'm just saying what the current situation looks like.

2019-09-17 18:46:06 UTC  

You don't even know what the current situation looks like.

2019-09-17 18:46:15 UTC  

Clearly more than you do 🙂

2019-09-17 18:46:20 UTC  

You weren't even aware China was moving away from an export-focus.

2019-09-17 18:46:27 UTC  

I had to show you, they were doing that <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

2019-09-17 18:46:40 UTC  

Do you know what the belt and road initiative is?

2019-09-17 18:46:44 UTC  

Yes I was. What I said was that I don't care what their plans are, because they do not change the current situation.

2019-09-17 18:47:06 UTC  

It's like saying that you "don't have a housing crisis" because you "will build more houses IN THE FUTURE".

2019-09-17 18:47:15 UTC  

YOur future plans does not change the problems of today

2019-09-17 18:47:30 UTC  

```The U.S could kill china with one single trading embargo``` <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

2019-09-17 18:47:45 UTC  

Yes I know what it is. It's just irrelevant to my point.

2019-09-17 18:47:57 UTC  

Yet if you understood the situation, you would change your analogy.

2019-09-17 18:48:04 UTC  

Anyhow, you clearly don't have anything more interesting to add here. Too much of a China fanboy

2019-09-17 18:48:26 UTC  

Weird how I showed you a successful authoritarian country.

2019-09-17 18:48:28 UTC  

Do you even know what the term "trading embargo" means?

2019-09-17 18:48:31 UTC  

:Yawn:

2019-09-17 18:48:38 UTC  

Oh I don't have that emoji anymore :/