Message from @Snake

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2019-09-21 15:52:59 UTC  

Barely

2019-09-21 15:53:05 UTC  

And like you said you have until 2044

2019-09-21 15:53:13 UTC  

But for constitutional changes, you need a super majority

2019-09-21 15:53:15 UTC  

67% and in 2044 no one will be a majority

2019-09-21 15:53:30 UTC  

What spic or nigger is going to go with you revoking their citizenship?

2019-09-21 15:53:31 UTC  

And that’s two decades away

2019-09-21 15:54:00 UTC  

Depends, there might be a civil war

2019-09-21 15:54:17 UTC  

The US might break up

2019-09-21 15:55:14 UTC  

Not many ways that citizenship can be revoked

2019-09-21 15:57:13 UTC  

Yeah but if trump played his hands right he would put section 8 housing in Hispanic areas

2019-09-21 15:57:21 UTC  

Thus making them fight each other

2019-09-21 15:57:33 UTC  

Trump isn't going to do anything, he's a moron

2019-09-21 15:58:36 UTC  

And he would support California’s independence

2019-09-21 15:58:46 UTC  

First you NEED to stack the supreme court with conservatives

2019-09-21 15:58:49 UTC  

As many as possible

2019-09-21 15:58:54 UTC  

Hell even get government espionage to get people in the state to support it

2019-09-21 15:59:54 UTC  

Yeah put section 8 housing in California

2019-09-21 15:59:58 UTC  

Support independence

2019-09-21 16:00:03 UTC  

Let them leave if it works

2019-09-21 16:00:16 UTC  

They commit Brazil and niggerdom

2019-09-21 16:00:45 UTC  

Then we deport all of the illegals, from DACA, birthright citizenship is revoked

2019-09-21 16:00:58 UTC  

Visa overstays or border crossers

2019-09-21 16:01:35 UTC  

You can’t revoke birthright citizenship

2019-09-21 16:53:34 UTC  

If they’re born on us soil they’re a citizen

2019-09-21 16:53:38 UTC  

Yes we can

2019-09-21 16:54:10 UTC  

That’s based off of a fucked up interpretation of the 14th amendment

2019-09-21 16:54:22 UTC  

The courts could easily fix that

2019-09-21 17:04:55 UTC  

k python -- to clarify what weez just said .... *as things stand right now*, you can't.

2019-09-21 17:06:10 UTC  

also, at this point, given the longevity of the precedence involved, you'd basically need a new amendment to change that (as a practical matter).

2019-09-21 17:07:22 UTC  

Yeah that’s true

2019-09-21 17:07:51 UTC  

I mean it’s correct the establishment is not working for us anyway

2019-09-21 17:07:56 UTC  

I think it’s going to fall apart

2019-09-21 17:15:43 UTC  

(i can't find it right now, but ....) i was watching a talk given by anthony scalia wherein he talked about various considerations when overturning precedence; and apparently it is considered "good law" to balance how __disruptive__ overturning something will be.
such as, if a particular <thing> has been in place for <some indeterminately "long time"> such that society has built itself around *that* particular interpretation, and changing that would "unduly disrupt" society, then the "right" decision is to leave it in place.
(don't know that i agree with that; but it is what it is)
iow, u'd need an actual amendment to change it

2019-09-21 20:34:30 UTC  

That's a pretty terrible way of doing things

2019-09-21 20:34:40 UTC  

Intentionally slowing progress down

2019-09-21 20:34:55 UTC  

No no silly, just changing the direction of progress.

2019-09-21 20:45:15 UTC  

"progress"

2019-09-21 20:45:57 UTC  

a)that seems to assume that rejecting precedence only goes in 1 direction
lol

2019-09-21 20:47:50 UTC  

b) the point is that you can't just go around ripping out long-standing ways of being *in 1 fell swoop*

2019-09-21 20:48:21 UTC  

i completely agree with the sentiment; i just don't think that i'd call it "good law"