the soviets collapsed ages ago though so why the fuck can't you make a first world nation

but 10 Bulgars ain't worth a single Japanese.

This is why we are so poor.

@tea_in_space because the people who lived in the USSR are still alive

We just like beating each other's shit more than making money together.

It's only officially collapsed around 89

Cultural thing.

even after that it took time

The last soldier left in 2001 here

wait but i thought it was 1991 when it was gone

A collapse of a country is not like it's POOF

happened

it happens over time

oh yeah thats more or less the state of western europe

that's when the ussr oficially imploded. obviously a LOT of shit was unsolved

Not even counting that today's Russia is still 80% the same USSR as it was in the 1980's

Problem is here on the Balkans we are too busy stealing from each other to actually create something useful for us all to make us rich.

People just don't call it USSR anymore

Even though the USSR was anti russian

@tea_in_space where the hell did you get that from

to be pro - russian would have been to support the monarchy

even if the ussr didn't have a tradition of ignoring issues which couldn't be resolved without making it evident communism is shit, when a country implodes things generally go to shit on their own much harder than normal

Ah, that kinda thing

@tea_in_space Whoever rules Russia is ALWAYS against its people

No, everyone hated the tsar around 1917

Russians have never seen a government that is pro-Russian.

Nobility, Peasants, everyone

well the USSR killed a fuck tone of Russian's there for the USSR was anti russian

I guess that is a kinda logic

yeah the last monarch was incompantant but compire it to what happened after and the Tsar seemed pretty good

@tea_in_space All Russian governments kill tons of Russians, all over their history.

^

It's a natural thing there in Russia.

It's not anti russia

Russians are just anti existence

Yeah, @ryvergate they just like violence against each other.

It has always been like that.

well am a monarchist anyway so i would prefer Russia was a monarchy

me too tbh

We need do something about this Russian on Russian violence

for example Putin is pro - russia since he is anti - soviet