Well even communism becomes a lot like ethnic nationalism

Tell me if life is better, then.

That’s why the USSR ended up colonizing Chechnya

And eastern Ukraine

China is just repeating the same pattern

Actually it's a trend of our commies here, too.

Communism ALWAYS ends up becoming ethnic nationalism and they HATE ethnic nationalists

It looks like in the future we will have to fight some strange blend of Nazism and communism.

The same pattern as always, and it isn't ethnic nationalism they intrinsically stride toward.

The only example was Tito preventing that

Communism always starts with the idea it can abolish markets.

Like white ethnostate communists or something.

Because it fundamentally misunderstands markets and their processes.

And Tito fucked up Yugoslavia in the long haul by preventing it from coming out

This is where Russia is heading now if the KGB stays in power, which I'm almost certain they will do.

They don't understand that the market actually embraces Communist ideals more than any alternative.

Because 10 years after he died it definitely did pop up

Just a lot harder than normal

And when they realize they can't survive without them, just as Stalin had in his abolition of the NEP, they devolve into fascism.

Such is the fate.

Those are called Nazbols, they do exist and I would just say they’re the honest communist, because at the end of the day it’s one ethnic group that ends up adopting the ideology and the rest don’t

May be the only form of governance that can actually abolish markets is fascism, because it can give the people some ideal different than trying to improve themselves.

So they have to kill the groups that don’t accept communism

The free market is better at handling this because everyone is motivated by profit, not ideology

E.g. lie to them that sacrificing for "The Greater Good" of your kin, whatever it means, is actually better than just living your life.

You should admit it, it's really efficient bait.

Altruism is the failure.

As for fascism, it doesn't function by abolition of markets.

I believe there is a natural tendency in males to sacrifice themselves for their tribe tbh

Socialism works great for about 5 minutes, then businesses start colapsing, and the government takes over to try and hold them up. Banks naturally failing and rebuilding is a vital part for a healthy economy. Bail outs are destructive especially when the banks have so much control they can cause a recession and they know the government will give them handouts.

You cannot survive abolition of markets.

They merely regulate out the market processes in such a way as to give them the ability to centrally plan, while leaving the appearance of market freedom.

That is why fascism is always socialism with the capitalist veneer.

Fascism is pretty much the definition of a truly mixed economy with heavy government oversight

Along with state cartels.

They don’t abolish the free market

Ministries of industry setting quotas.

It's wholly inefficient.

But they definitely over see it and regulate it to hell

I actually would disagree on fascism.