A stable chaos.

It's just like markets.

@ArmouredHeart Nope, actually entropy can't live without order, but it's difficult to explain it too.

@yordanyordanov Start with a solid understanding of entropy and enthalpy and work from there.

There's also Chaos Theory. Is that what you're referencing, ArmouredHeart?

I actually have a solid understanding of LIFE.

Works better man.

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Entropy is just heat on the lam

But there is the problem when you speak to biologists and tell them life ain't just DNA and protein but a self-referential system working by exacerbating its possible variability states they think you a crazy raving bonkers.

I believe Chaos Theory is a bunch of bullshit actually @Jeremy

The true clue lies in counting possible variable states on different organizational scales.

For example a mouse can have far larger variability of **stable** states than a bactrium cause of the scale of its organization.

But when I go and tell actual real physicists well-versed in thermodynamics how I count micro vs. macrostates they laugh at me.

You don't have to make me realize what you're seeing, @yordanyordanov. I was just writing about this last night. You require the chaos in the freedom of self-organization for individuals to pursue self-interest and utility advantage, to determine where best their institutional participation lie, what values and norms to adopt, and all of these variances compete throughout society, and their controlled state is within a framework of law not allowing for their imposition of force, rendering secure the ability for the individual to rationally decide. You can see this as social evolution, natural selection throughout societies.

How shall I put it-I'm not very popular at the local university.

@Jeremy I think we talk the same, it's just that I prefer working with particles, rather than people, but, yeah, the laws are the same.

Because your university is likely filled with ideologues, seeking to champion some particular institution's set of norms and values, so forth.

Everywhere and on all scales.

To impose them upon others.

This is a problem we have in the U.S. as well.

Indeed, @yordanyordanov.

@Jeremy No, because they were all members of the party in their youth and they haven't gotten far from that material dialectics.

It'll take some time before that dissipates.

Perhaps this may be the final generation.

I don't think so.

The younger are idiots, too.

See we here in our little post-communistic hellhole have this problem.

All the smarts emigrated West and when they did all that remained were idiots.

So one idiots teach other idiots.

Real spiral of destruction!

The brain-drain, as they say.

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Indeed.

The only reason why I'm not West is because I couldn't handle the rules, and the stifling the modern EU had gotten into.

And, yes, I'm kind of a nationalist.

Fair enough.

@yordanyordanov You seem to be on the right track, but you really need to educate yourself on the actual math behind the systems you are claiming understanding of. If you feel brave, look into observed quantum interactions in the brain and dna.
If there is one constant in the universe, it is mathematics, and I promise you won't regret jumping in the deep end.

Here at least they don't persecute me for strange theories and I don't have to abide by anti-discrimination feminazy islamist policewoemen offended by everything.

@ArmouredHeart Problem is I still can't find the right mathematics to express myself.

Otherwise, may be, I could have gotten the Nobel prize by now.